So, I have one Question.

[quote=Searz]Nasus is good against some champions, bad against some. He's a viable champions anyhow. [[Renekton]] anyone? He's definitely on par with Irelia or even higher in power.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]yea man irelia is so strong its annoying at times, she has like olaf's ult on constanly, can just take anyone out when she wants, and is amazing 2v1 and farming and stupid life steal.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=Considereth] Lugignaf, as someone who plays only offtanks I will sum it up for you. There is good, like Blitz and Olaf. Than there is great, like Jarvan. Than there is Irelia, the queen of being better than everyone at everything. I got Akali Ultimate as my Q. I got lifesteal that Olaf would sell his left nut to have. I got CC that easily sets me up for kills. I got true damage too, trolololol! I can build straight tank after Trinity force and out dps the dpsers. Hell, I can even out tank the tanks. My name is Irelia and I keep a bad bitch around. [/quote] IMO Jarvan>Irelia in terms of team comps. Irelia is more 1v1/1v2[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Because: #1: I dont have Irelia #2: Mordekaiser is a lot better cause its virtually impossible to kill him and he pwns any champion (with and without a soul (of course that without a soul its harder, but he can still kill)).[/quote]

[quote=Considereth]Here is the problem with Renekton (I love him btw, possibly over 150 games with him most of which are ranked): Renekton goes from unstoppable, great laner and amazing damage for the first 15 minutes of the game. After this point, he goes into stun-machine who absorb damage for his carries. Irelia goes from a good laner to unstoppable once she picks up Trinity force which is extremely easy to farm up. As in if you do not have Trinity force within 25minutes with Irelia, you are playing her wrong. Renekton late game is not that great but he can take damage well and annoy the carries. However, Irelia can do this too but do it better. She can lock onto a carry, thanks to her amazing passive cannot be stoppable, and proceed to destroy them. Whereas Renekton is not gifted with CC immune and has a lot of trouble dealing with it. Trundle is starting to become popular as well, the CC immune is where its at right now in a CC metagame. Renekton can be stopped from anti-carrying whereas Irelia is much harder to stop. They are both great farmer. If you want a better early game, Renekton is the way to go. If you want a better late game, Irelia is the better pick. Jarvan is better at pulling than Irelia. I think they are both great at locking down targets though. Jarvan is a great pick. He needs to be looked at as well. To Sum it up: Renekton damage falls off. Irelia damage does not.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'm starting to think Irelia is just a tad OP. From the arguments here, I see "Focus her or die" or "Focus her [i]and[/i] die". I played her once or twice the week she was free. I'm not sure how difficult she is to stop though. I know he passive+Merc Treads makes her almost completely impossible to CC for a chase/kill. Her "life steal" isn't too huge but, it's enough to survive a ton of harass. Once the ball gets rolling on her, there is no stopping her, ever.[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]Jarvan is better. Hes a freaking Prince.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]irelia is OP as fuck...even better than jarvan atm... After the nerfs on her (i hope some will come soon), jarvan will be number 1. Renekton is still kinda meh...number 3, cause his late game is really weak[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Irelia is OP because of her insane mobility infight. There is no champ that can move through the battle as fast and save like Irelia, sometimes you dont even get her in target, like some kind of ghost or something. But, yeah she is dying fast if focused, Nasus , Jarvan or Renekton are kinda beefier than her. I prefer Nasus. :3[/quote]