Last Whisper

[quote=Jet]searz has already said why LW is better it applies to damage skills instantly deal more damage to everyone you hit with your damage skills before you even auto attack (like you should be doing with caitlyn, ashe, mf, etc) not to mention it's cheaper[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Zeprido] [quote=JunSupport] [quote=SinDelta] Last whisper is for the late game armor stacking, the flat reduction from TBC isn't going to cut it anymore. [/quote] Most teams do more magic damage then physical nowadays. And your base armor is actually higher then your base MR. Physical damage only stays important because of auto-attacks, minion aggro, and towers. Rarely will you find a more then 1 champion on the enemy team that stacks 200+ armor. In which case, Madred's Bloodrazor, and your magic damage deals will clean that champion out thoroughly. [/quote] And if they have 200+ armor and MR? =P [/quote] Chances are they are a tank and you should not be attacking them anyways. @jet He also said +200 armor LW will be better, but overall they are about even in terms of value/ usefulness.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]no they aren't LW is better TBC is only better if they have 5 people with no armor, but even then, LW would be better because you can do so much more damage just using your skills without even needing to hit them once[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Jet, the thing is that TBC deals loads more damage on AAs. Even if it doesn't apply to your spells you still get such a big boost to the damage of your AAs that it's worth it. Let me upload a graph showing the difference.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=Jet] because if you build TBC they will get a chain vest and there you go, you wasted 2.8 k or w/e last whisper basically says "hey, it doesn't matter if you get armor, I'm still going to do a tonne of damage" [/quote] Pretty much this. 9 times out of 10 in high elo streams you see LW over TBC, simply because in that elo EVERYONE is buying armor, especially if they see TBC.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]LW is not better 'till about 200 armor...and very few people stack that much.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]searz fuck off with your graphs lw is better, [b]end of discussion[/b] if TBC was better, you'd think high elo would use it on vayne, a champion that ONLY USES AUTO ATTACKS to deal damage (condemn is single target positioning skill, don't count that) and guess what? all high elo players build LW on her nameless_bard, you have no opinion, you can't even build sivir remotely decent[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I can have whatever opinion I want....the fact that you automatically shut down people who have different ideas that you is extremely immature.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]no, it's like taking part in a discussion of balance in a game where you don't know how to play the game past beginner levels you're doing exactly that l0l get mad[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I do know how to play the game. I may be terrible with Sivir, but I do play other champions well...[/quote]