Last Whisper

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Searz] [quote=Jet] i have yet to see him actually go TBC on tristana in any game i've seen him in also this: http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=7[/quote] Huh, I just took Trojan for his word when he said it. [/quote] Huh, I just took locodoco for his word when he said it. [quote=locodoco] i like ie->cleaver for damage nowdays and qss > banshee almost always for trist [/quote] note: he meant IE and then cleaver, not IE is greater than cleaver. and proof it's him: http://i54.tinypic.com/2eqcapu.jpg[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=SryImBad] (So how are we going to settle this? If we don't this tread will be over 1351345 pages of endless arguing.) TBC is, in fact, the better early-on item. LW is better for late game situations. But if you play until the LW is finally better than TBC at everything, the game would be over. It may cost more but it's more useful on auto attack characters like MF/Yi. LW is more useful on strong AD spells on characters like Corki/Irelia. Not saying that they can't use the other, but because Yi/MF is less reliant on Physical Spell damage, it's more useful for TBC. IMO Conclusion (Pros): TBC = Early-On/Team/AttackSpeed/Higher Damage. LW = Cost Less/Later-on/Instant/% not fixed amount. But if you want to win the favor of others, by all means go ahead. [/quote] Uh, no. Corki doesn't use LW. He has crazy amounts of armor shredding and his missiles and phosphorous deal magic damage, so the only physical damage he deals is auto-attacks (and probs gatling gun). So corki gets TBC because he already has incredible amounts of flat armor pen and it'd take a LOT of armor to make LW more useful than TBC on him.[/quote]

[quote=SryImBad][quote=Trojan995] [quote=SryImBad] (So how are we going to settle this? If we don't this tread will be over 1351345 pages of endless arguing.) TBC is, in fact, the better early-on item. LW is better for late game situations. But if you play until the LW is finally better than TBC at everything, the game would be over. It may cost more but it's more useful on auto attack characters like MF/Yi. LW is more useful on strong AD spells on characters like Corki/Irelia. Not saying that they can't use the other, but because Yi/MF is less reliant on Physical Spell damage, it's more useful for TBC. IMO Conclusion (Pros): TBC = Early-On/Team/AttackSpeed/Higher Damage. LW = Cost Less/Later-on/Instant/% not fixed amount. But if you want to win the favor of others, by all means go ahead. [/quote] Uh, no. Corki doesn't use LW. He has crazy amounts of armor shredding and his missiles and phosphorous deal magic damage, so the only physical damage he deals is auto-attacks (and probs gatling gun). So corki gets TBC because he already has incredible amounts of flat armor pen and it'd take a LOT of armor to make LW more useful than TBC on him. [/quote] Corki, indeed has have an armor shredder. But all Corki's I ever see are too squishy to use it unless 1v1 situations. LW is the more viable choice for Corki who's not fed.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]A corki that isn't fed/farmed is a bad corki. That's it.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]LW on corki XD I'm sorry to say this SryImBad, but we can't trust anything you say anymore.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Searz] LW on corki XD [/quote] Oh god my sides hurt.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]i build it on him all the time then again, i dont even own corki or play carries hmm[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=locodoco] i like ie->cleaver for damage nowdays and qss > banshee almost always for trist[/quote] [quote=locodoco] fuck i mistyped,i meant cleaver over lw zzz[/quote] I'm glad we cleared that out. I hope Jet can realize that this is the way to go too.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]lol yeah, let me build tbc on ashe or caitlyn maybe ezrael oh, not to mention miss fortune, obviously forgetting her these are smart ideas you have searz so 2 carries (tristana and corki) benefit the most from tbc compared to last whisper, this means it's the way to go, right? and even then, loco only said "no one builds super tanky nowadays" - what if they do? he still going to run TBC?[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Jet] yeah, let me build tbc on ashe or caitlyn maybe ezrael oh, not to mention miss fortune, obviously forgetting her these are smart ideas you have searz so 2 carries (tristana and corki) benefit the most from tbc compared to last whisper, this means it's the way to go, right?[/quote] Yea.. exactly what I didn't say. --.-- Since it apparently wasn't clear enough for you, let me rephrase that; I hope Jet can realize that this is the way to go [u]on carries that rely 99% on AAs to deal physical damage[/u] too. I consider it the way to go on champions like Tristana, Corki and Vayne. For the other carries I'm still using LW. [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rune-tips-what-secondary-and-primary-means-and-more-24255?page=1]Here's how I'd build Caitlyn and Ashe.[/url] Nothing out of the ordinary.[/quote]