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Dyrus says "Morde is so OP, Waiting for...

Creator: Temzilla June 23, 2011 11:50pm
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In response to winning a game as AP morde (flat hp regen/armor/mr runes, 21/9/0 masteries, Boots start, rush revolver, sheen, deathcap, lich bane, into rylai's. if you were wondering) Dyrus was streaming and said something to the effect of "Morde is so OP, I'm abusing it until they hot fix it or something" and then goes on to say "If this is how they meant him to be, then he's tier 1 easy".

I was watching him play Morde, and he was pretty decent as morde, but he wasn't doing anything special, shield was behaving normally and all that, ult and spell vamp were interacting normally.

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What are thoughts about this?

Dyrus, a 2100+ ELO player, member of EG, calling Mordekaiser OP, and said in chat a moment later that he would have used him at Dreamhack, but his team wouldn't let him.

Is this just the "Shushei alistar/gragas" effect?

Or is Morde really OP?
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Morde is a tanky mage carry.

He relies on farming a lot.
He must build tanky to survive as a melee champion.
He has the option to build a little AP to boost his spells.

When he gets an Ult off, his damage output exceeds any other champion in the game. (Carry damage)

But, because he has no CC and is a melee, he can't fill the role of a normal carry.

Not OP.
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JunSupport wrote:

Morde is a tanky mage carry.

He relies on farming a lot.
He must build tanky to survive as a melee champion.
He has the option to build a little AP to boost his spells.

When he gets an Ult off, his damage output exceeds any other champion in the game. (Carry damage)

But, because he has no CC and is a melee, he can't fill the role of a normal carry.

Not OP.
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You just called 2100 elo ranked "Pubstomping"

Also, Mordekaiser doesn't have to build anymore tanky than someone like AP Gragas, or AP Alistar does.
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Morde + Spell Vamp + FoN = Mega OP.

Like 5000-6000 gold and you already won, cause killing this bastard requires a five man power and sometimes, he is the one who kills them...
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I've always considered Morde a bit OP, because he is a tanky mage.. the build you gave well... I wouldn't exactly make him a glass cannon. I prefer just getting a gunblade and rylai and then tanky tanky
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Yes he is op like everyone other charakter who can tank like a boss and deal ****tons of dmg :3

E: at least when he fights against minions/more then 2 enemie heroes at once cuz of the shield
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Even at 2000+ ELOs, there are games where people just get to pubstomp.
If you let Mordekaiser farm, and don't CC him down early game, you're screwed. I don't care if he's 2100 ELO. His team probably fed, or let Mordekaiser farm. Got torn a new one in solo-queue.

Bet he'd been in high ELO for so long that he forgot how to handle Mordekaiser, and was thinking: Derp, easy win, they have a Morde. Then let Mordekaiser farm to his heart's content.

1. Tanky AP Mordekaiser is amazing once build.
FoN, Rylai, Randuin, maybe an Abyssal -> You're a giant boulder of destruction.

2. Spell Vamp Mordekaiser is a pubstomper.
Building sv = not building tankier items = Easily shut down by CC because you're a melee.

Mordekaiser is a pubstomper.
Spell Vamp Mordekaiser is a SUPER pubstomper.
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but the thing is.. How are you going to deny Morde from his farm? Sure its easy o say theoretically but a great morde can still maintain farm with the range on his E and maybe W his minions...

Its really not that easy, even when it sounds easy
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@Dante Rebellion:

Match him up with someone that has a strong early game, as well as constantly lane pressure.

It's high ELO, roamers, gankers, the team is fully stocked with all the right tools.

This isn't Summoner Level10 solo-queue as far as I've been lead to believe.
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Morde isn't that Great a farmer he is just a fast farmer.
Difference really

Morde is as OP as Poppy and Akali

Take that statement as you may ;)
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