Vayne: Max Condemn First. Why?

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] I got a double kill bot ranked yesterday with her at level 2 or 3...lol. [/quote] You were bot with another laner to "rely" on. Mid, she's not so great after all the nerfs.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]She is still great mid but the current ranged AD support bot meta is so much better for her and I was with a Janna, I did all the damage (they were stupid and chased her when she got low though LOL) and when you said "Before that, she's pretty worthless," you didn't say MID, you didn't specify, so I thought you meant you thought she was just bad anywhere until 6 which is totally untrue.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Is Q worth skilling first if you're running AD quints (and maybe AD marks)? AD quints are pretty pretty much the best choice on her anyway. Edit: I don't play her (if it wasn't painfully obvious).[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Wai solo mid with Vayne though :( AD range support bot is SO AMAZING. [/quote] Exactly, so basically you just max condemn.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]Ah ok, that explanation makes sense, If I ever do go back to Vayne I'll probably max tumble first.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I've done like 20 games in the past 2 days or so as Vayne. Maxing Condemned first gave me a huge advantage over my enemies. Knocking them into a wall obliterated their HP. 20 Minute IE and I 3 shot an enemy TF all I had was Zerker Greaves/Doran's Blade/Infinite Edge...Well technically 4 shot him. He tried to jump me as I stalked an over extended Mordekaiser. Condemed him into a wall and auto attacked twice procing silver bolts....Condemed essentially gives you assured damage, to my knowledge because it is a targeted ability it can't be avoided. So it is your most secure source of damage as well as your biggest burst. I wish I recorded some of my games...But if it's still a big what if in your mind I suggest doing a few normal games and varying your skill orders. Not the most stable way to measure preformance but you'll be able to feel/see the difference with Condemned maxed over Tumble.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The stun can be avoided on people with re-positioning tools like Ez or Kass. It won't "impact" until they've "landed" at their new position and push them from there.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=Searz] Is Q worth skilling first if you're running AD quints (and maybe AD marks)? AD quints are pretty pretty much the best choice on her anyway. Edit: I don't play her (if it wasn't painfully obvious). [/quote] I run AD quints, still not enough by a landslide for Q to be maxed first. And no, BMB, as this whole thread is ABOUT, you should max Condemn first :P[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]idk i've always maxed Tumble on her since I didn't notice e ran off AD rofl. I think it ran off AP when she got released? Can't remember.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]never did and even if it did, early game much more damage from E, even without terrain knockback.[/quote]