Fishing for feedback

[quote=Keels]Here's my current Gragas build... Shooting for Offtank with good damage. The ROA/Rylai's open works pretty well for me. [[rod of ages]][[mercury's treads]][[rylai's crystal scepter]][[force of nature]][[randuin's omen]][[rabadon's deathcap]]. Runes: MPen marks and quints Flat cdr blues Armor yellows Any questions or comments?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]AP quints.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]Hmm in not sure, maybe AP Quints instead of Magic pen, idk Gragas ratios, but to make it easy try to look like that at it: are the 15 AP more dmg or the 6(5,94% to be exact, since u shred 5,94 Mres he has 5,94% less effective health so you basicly deal 5,94% more dmg then you would do without that runes)% dmg from the mpen more dmg for your skills?[/quote]

[quote=Keels]Duly noted. That's pretty much it, I didn't expect to hear that anything was too scandalous.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No Yuki, that's not true. Since both his barrel ratios are good AP is the obvious choice.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]well i said i dont know his AP Ratios, but im to lazy to check if the 15 AP do more dmg or the 6 Magic pen do more[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Yukimaru] well i said i dont know his AP Ratios, but im to lazy to check if the 15 AP do more dmg or the 6 Magic pen do more [/quote] Since you would most likely get void staff anyways, his 90% ap ratio on barrel, 100% on Ulti, and 50% on Body Slam would make me say 15 ap the whole way. [quote=Yukimaru] Hmm in not sure, maybe AP Quints instead of Magic pen, idk Gragas ratios, but to make it easy try to look like that at it: are the 15 AP more dmg or the 6(5,94% to be exact, since u shred 5,94 Mres he has 5,94% less effective health so you basicly deal 5,94% more dmg then you would do without that runes)% dmg from the mpen more dmg for your skills? [/quote] You can only calculate 1 resist pen as 1% increased damage if you are shredding ALL of the enemy's resistance. Otherwise it is worth less. i.e. someone has 201 armor, you have 1 armor pen, you will deal .33% more damage, not 1% more. But yes, if you have 50 armor pen, and the enemy has 50 armor, you deal 50% increased damage.[/quote]