So about Heal....

[quote=ryzing force][quote=Joobieo] Heal is useless why is this thread even still up lol ? [/quote] there are certain situations i guess where its viable, but i'm not gonna try and analyze those ^^[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17][quote=ryzing force] i dont think flash should ever be determined by the situation, it's just a must take. [/quote] Not always. But what I meant by my statement was that whatever spell was the best spell is determined at the moment it is used. Flash won't save you from Tryndamere; Exhaust will. Exhaust won't save you from a 5-man gank; Flash can. Situational.[/quote]

[quote=ryzing force]yes true. and in that context, heal can be viable i assume. what i meant was that i would never take it over a flash or an exhaust. But then again, it's all very situational and which champ you're playing in the first place and what your role is. But like someone mentioned, a flash or an exhaust will get you out of any situation that a heal could've in the first place, and flash or exhaust are still strong late game, whereas heal just... :S[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]One time I used heal and it rocks try it out for yourself. Go Soraka. [[Heal]] + Her Regular heal + [[wish]] pretty neat; 0[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]The thing with [[heal]] is that when you get experienced with the game, you KNOW is bad, is like you can feel it.[/quote]

[quote=ryzing force][quote=Yougan] Want to see a real god damn problem? FLASH! GOD DAMN IT! AND ESPECIALLY THE GOD DAMN KASSADIN ULTI/INSTA FLASH FUUUUUUUUUUUU** I KILLED MY CAPS LOCK! [/quote] and your pic is of kennen...who basically can escape any-fucking-thing like kass? ^^[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=ryzing force] [quote=Yougan] Want to see a real god damn problem? FLASH! GOD DAMN IT! AND ESPECIALLY THE GOD DAMN KASSADIN ULTI/INSTA FLASH FUUUUUUUUUUUU** I KILLED MY CAPS LOCK! [/quote] and your pic is of kennen...who basically can escape any-fucking-thing like kass? ^^ [/quote] He cant chase you if hes dead.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]They could just make Heal a passive summoner improving regen based conumeables either by increasing the duration they tick or increasing the amount healed per tick. The heal talent changes to "Mixologist"-All stat buff potions gain increased duration. TADA! It becomes a viable summoner through out the entirety of the game....But what does my idea matter? Unless Riot is stalking the forums...Nikasaur admitted they do apparently.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote]Rework for [[rally]]: Now can be placed like a ward. Now is untargetable and undestructable. Also, it can't block spells like rammus [[powerball]] or skillshots. Now increases the AD of champs in a radius of 1000 near it by 15% (15% for ap if mastery [[Improved Rally]] is skilled(still increases duration by 5)) Note: % damage stacks additive first, then is applied to the base valuaes. Means if you have 15% AP and 30% AP, you get 45% AP added. The mastery [[Improved Rally]] goes into tier 1 of the offensive mastery tree. The mastery [[cripple]] goes into tier 2 of the offensive mastery tree. Cooldown reduced to 150 seconds. [b]Note: This doesn't stack with itself![/b][/quote] That way, [[Rally]] is avaiable for supports and is very usefull if used at the right time. I think, this way, it is harder to use than [[flash]]. Also, [[exhaust]] is actually only used by AD-carries and very powerfull. Now they have to "waste" a point for its mastery.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=NicknameMy] Also, [[exhaust]] is actually only used by AD-carries and very powerfull. Now they have to "waste" a point for its mastery. [/quote] Not at all. Exhaust is an awesome spell for every champion who can deal damage. I get it when play as Morde and I can really say that it always does a great job.[/quote]