I think Xerath is a lot better a mage on TT than you give him credit to. He wrecks with any AoE ulti tank (Amumu, Galio, Nunu), he's range becomes more relevant and the amout of bushes/meter makes him shine good. Also, a good vayne with a good Interrupter/Support also wreck many a teams. Walls are shorter so her stun sticks easier, and her lategame is insane.

What about if u are loosing the game?
Many times we dominate the game but when they go 15/16 we are starting to lose...

We are doing something like "Jungel-laning": It just simply means we pick some Jungle-like champs for Top that can easily engage into Jungle and take out Wraiths/wolf-camp and wraiths/mixed-camp. It gives good extrafarm and exp and is a threat for ganking. its not unpopular to do as i have seen many other Teams doing so. I would like u to deepen such a strategy and i would really like 2 know which strategys u can effiectivly use against it.

btw a nice guide, 1 of the best I ever read would be happy about some replays of ure games ;)

hey, are there some links or replays of ure games?

Lol, this guide went stale awhile ago, just thought I'd drop a comment anyhow though.

As for improvements, I think this COULD be cleaned up a bit (pictures, bit of formatting work here and there just to make it more visually appealing), but in general the people who read this aren't going to care too much, and are willing to read the info anyhow (if they actually CARE and want to improve). You also underrate Kennen a little bit I think. He has high mobility with his lightning rush, great bush checkers, and a skill set that just rapes in a teamfight once he gets a bit of HP to withstand their team. Just a side note.

Also, since the recent changes to Olaf, Tryndamere, and the summoner spells, exhaust has now been weakened (shorter duration) and cleanse has gotten a mega buff (removes exhaust and ignite now). This makes those AD carries like Trynd and Xin and such just that much stronger, and much harder to counter by just running triple exhaust. I think you're underrating them just a bit.

Also, Lee Sin seems to be the most OPed hero on this map right now, from what I've seen in normal and ranked. He can shoot across the map if you get some ward coverage, can gank starting at level 1, has sick burst, and if you get a bloodthirster on him he's basically impossible to kill. Has great utility and can save your teammates *** if they get out of position, by just jumping to them with his shield and using his dragonstrike to peel off their attackers. Pretty sick character right now, I think you should rank him a bit higher (if you're not first pick you kinda have to ban him. He's also an AMAZING jungler on TT).

IMHO I don't think people should put up tier lists anyways, considering how subjective it is. A lot of it depends on the person writing the list (their strengths, prefferences, and weaknesses) and also what champions your team happens to pick. I like the section where you show some of the strongest champions, but I don't think that the tier list is really needed. Every champion is situational to a certain extent, and that seems to be what 90% of the people commenting on and downvoting your guide are ticked off/confused by.

+1 from me here man, stuck in my favorites. I thought it was altogether an exceptional guide and a great resource, and I think that I even learned some new/better stuff from this (I play almost exclusively on TT). Even with that "stale" sign at the top, it's still loaded with great info.


P.S. I'm mentioning this and putting a link to it in my Trynd guide, I hope you're ok with that. It's a resource I think more people need to be made aware of :P

Very detailed and good guide,gives a lot information and explenations on how to succeed in 3v3.+1

what about shaco :( he's one of the dark knights of TT, free wards, and can hop between lanes in under 5 seconds with his stealth.

I'm a n00b (only lvl 13)...that being said.

I see your point on not killing the inhibitors...but isn't the minon count the same? It prevents them going out of their base and getting buffs / dragon. They need to stay and defend the waves?

You got me.

But no, seriously. I was reading parts that looked interesting. So, what might it be that I have missed? Or just tell me a reason to ban Mordekaiser other than that he is numero one.

you clearly didn't actually read the guide and skipped to the pictures and tier list.

Also, sorry for spamming your guide, but I am sure you really need to work on tier list. I think Fiddlesticks can easily be countered with ignite/silence/stun, for example. Another thing I'd like you to know is, that Trynd is easy to counter with exhausts and Mordekaiser has too low base health to be considering unstoppable.

Also, you say Mordekaiser is a must-ban, but put him into tier 3. If he is not a tier 1 champion, why ban him every game you go in? Both Tryndamere and Mordekaiser are easily countered by CC; I assume your fear for them is because you don't quite like playing CC champs.