EU, and I'm talking from the Cho PoV.
I've been spamming custom games with a friend who plays both Garen and Udyr and no matter how much armor I get at level 1, Garen just destroys me and can just rush brutalizer
and you can't really itemize against Udyr damage, especially early game
In Garen's case if you can get some decent farm and not fall behind too much, rush some armor and like you said, max spikes first, you can eventually fight him but in Udyr's case if he gets ahead it's really hard to catch up and it tends to snowball in his favor more and more really fast
I've been spamming custom games with a friend who plays both Garen and Udyr and no matter how much armor I get at level 1, Garen just destroys me and can just rush brutalizer
and you can't really itemize against Udyr damage, especially early game
In Garen's case if you can get some decent farm and not fall behind too much, rush some armor and like you said, max spikes first, you can eventually fight him but in Udyr's case if he gets ahead it's really hard to catch up and it tends to snowball in his favor more and more really fast
You need to level spikes at level 1 and auto attack him when he comes in. Don't run from his spin.
Also try attack speed reds.
Also try attack speed reds.

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WW used to beat Cho for sure but I don't know about anymore. Haven't seen it since nerfs.

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Lugignaf wrote:
MAOKAI! MAOKAI IS THE NEW META! HE FITS EVERYWHERE!
But D:
Maokai shouldn't beat Cho'Gath.
DuffTime wrote:
You need to level spikes at level 1 and auto attack him when he comes in. Don't run from his spin.
Also try attack speed reds.
Attack Speed reds
Armor Yellows
Magic Resist blues
Move Speed or AP Quints
He's so strong early with that setup.
Tri lane for life.
Lugignaf wrote:
MAOKAI! MAOKAI IS THE NEW META! HE FITS EVERYWHERE!
QTF.
He can really do anything you want him to. Duo, solo, jungle, mid.
^^

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Temzilla wrote:
Attack Speed reds
Armor Yellows
Magic Resist blues
Move Speed or AP Quints
He's so strong early with that setup.
Man after my own heart~
That's one of my start builds for Chogie~

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DuffTime wrote:
You need to level spikes at level 1 and auto attack him when he comes in. Don't run from his spin.
Also try attack speed reds.
that's exactly what I do though
level spikes first, grab a cloth armor 5 pots
My Cho runepage is attack speed reds, dodge seals (armor against Garen) MR glyphs and movespeed quints (also armor against Garen)
I've tried so many different approaches/builds/masteries but his level 2 damage is just too high to trade with him.
It could also be the fact that my friend playing Garen was running a full armor pen page, but I guess that's pretty standard on Garen?
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SUSTAIN.
Warwick and a few other champions with good sustain will win over Cho.
Who is a sustain champ who is better than late game cho'gath?