Karthus

[quote=Luther3000]His ult doesn't even really do anything in the lane, he has to get you to 200-ish health before you can die to it. If you're hanging around the lane at 200 health you deserve to get a death from it. Best thing to do if you know you're vs Karthus is to start with boots, dodge his Q's and burst him down, preferably from outside of his aura.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] [quote=IceCreamy] [quote=ProtoShot] [quote=IceCreamy] [[Lay Waste]]? Dodge it. [[Wall of Pain]]? [[Arcane Shift]] ftw. [[Requiem]]? [[Banshee's Veil]]. Perhaps [[Guardian Angel]]? I'd say [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] but... if you are playing AD Ezreal it's just weird (though it's fun if your whole team buys it, Karthus is completely useless then :D) EDIT: Obviously [[Hexdrinker]] is useful as well. Often overlooked, guilty of it myself as well :P [/quote] Lol, but what I'm talking early game levels 1 to 10 on how to counter him. [/quote] Ah okay, then [[Hexdrinker]] is the best solution I guess :) [/quote] You could also get a [[Wit's End]], I s'pose [/quote] Well, the problem is that you need to be in a fight. If you are low hp, running away, [[Hexdrinker]] would be a better choice then [[Wit's End]]. Though it's not a bad item at all :)[/quote]

[quote=ProtoShot]Wit's End could also work with Hexdrinker if the opposite team had Karthus and another strong AP champ. Good amount of MR with AS and AD. [quote=Luther3000] His ult doesn't even really do anything in the lane, he has to get you to 200-ish health before you can die to it. If you're hanging around the lane at 200 health you deserve to get a death from it. Best thing to do if you know you're vs Karthus is to start with boots, dodge his Q's and burst him down, preferably from outside of his aura. [/quote] Edit: The last time I laned mid with him I might have been facing a level 30 summoner at around level 6 or 7 so it was like 400 damage I think but I get what you mean.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=IceCreamy] [quote=The_Nameless_Bard] [quote=IceCreamy] [quote=ProtoShot] [quote=IceCreamy] [[Lay Waste]]? Dodge it. [[Wall of Pain]]? [[Arcane Shift]] ftw. [[Requiem]]? [[Banshee's Veil]]. Perhaps [[Guardian Angel]]? I'd say [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] but... if you are playing AD Ezreal it's just weird (though it's fun if your whole team buys it, Karthus is completely useless then :D) EDIT: Obviously [[Hexdrinker]] is useful as well. Often overlooked, guilty of it myself as well :P [/quote] Lol, but what I'm talking early game levels 1 to 10 on how to counter him. [/quote] Ah okay, then [[Hexdrinker]] is the best solution I guess :) [/quote] You could also get a [[Wit's End]], I s'pose [/quote] Well, the problem is that you need to be in a fight. If you are low hp, running away, [[Hexdrinker]] would be a better choice then [[Wit's End]]. Though it's not a bad item at all :) [/quote] In that case I think a [[banshee's veil]] could be better, but [[hexdrinker]] is a great item too (it may not actually stop him from killing you is the only issue).[/quote]

[quote=ProtoShot]Banshee's Veil is a little steep for early game, especially when I'm trying to build up my damage output which is why I'm most likely going with Hexdrinker and mabye Wit's End.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Well the TS is interested in countering Karthus in level 1-10, and it's highly unusual to get a [[Banshee's Veil]] as first item, no? :P [[Hexdrinker]] some AD and survivability, so (in my opinion of course) that is the item to go with.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=IceCreamy] Well the TS is interested in countering Karthus in level 1-10, and it's highly unusual to get a [[Banshee's Veil]] as first item, no? :P [[Hexdrinker]] some AD and survivability, so (in my opinion of course) that is the item to go with. [/quote] wait....we were talking about early game? *facepalm*[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=ProtoShot] Edit: The last time I laned mid with him I might have been facing a level 30 summoner at around level 6 or 7 so it was like 400 damage I think but I get what you mean. [/quote] Impossible, the base damage on Karthus' ult at level 1 is 250. Even if you buy no MR at all, your base MR will still take that down to around 200 at most. Even if he somehow finished a Rabadon's Deathcap it still wouldn't be doing anything like 400 until level 11.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I suggest starting with Vamp Specter (or Doran's Blade/boots). Farmfarmfarm and then heal off jungle creeps if your low.[/quote]

[quote=ProtoShot][quote=Luther3000] Impossible, the base damage on Karthus' ult at level 1 is 250. Even if you buy no MR at all, your base MR will still take that down to around 200 at most. Even if he somehow finished a Rabadon's Deathcap it still wouldn't be doing anything like 400 until level 11. [/quote] I was exaggerating a little bit lol (you prob wont like that) but he did a considerable amount of damage, it was definably above 300 damage because I was using a health potion and farming creeps and he got me out of nowhere.[/quote]