What are the best runes for Vayne

[quote=DuffTime]Right. What arguments are there for Tumble? Utility. Last hitting was one I heard. I'd say that's about it. For condemn? You get all your damage at once. Otherwise I don't think there are any strong arguments for it... The proof is in the pudding. Ask other Vayne players who level Condemn and Tumble if Vayne is strong early. Their answer is generally "No, not really. I prefer to farm my gear up." Ask the players maxing Silver Bolts first if Vayne is strong early. "Ayupp."[/quote]

[quote=BunkerBob]A crappy escape tool that I use for level 1 ganks, and that extra bit of damage to grab first blood.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Don't get me wrong, I get lvl 1 Tumble, and sometimes I get condemn level 2, sometimes bolts, but after those first 3 points are placed it's Silver bolts all the way. Maxing Tumble comes second.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Have played some more games maxing [[Silver Bolts]] but really don't see it being as easy as you describe Duff. Landing 3 hits early game is not done without being counter-harassed. Granted I was laning against combos like [[Shyvana]]+[[Graves]] and [[Sona]]+[[Kog'Maw]] who have pretty strong early game damage (especially since the [[Kog'Maw]] had armor seals to reduce my damage and attack damage quints to increase his damage and I had [[Nunu]] support so no heals - I really need to buy those attack damage quintessences and use them instead of my armor pen :/), but it didn't work very well overall :P Don't agree with [[Vayne]] feeling weak when maxing [[Condemn]] or [[Tumble]] btw, don't agree at all. She's strong all game, my problem lies in her squishiness[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I never said it was easy to perform the act of getting your 3 shots in a few times to win the lane. Timing is key, etc. I only ever said that getting three shots is easy if you want to get them. Some games you don't have the luxury to go balls deep aggression. One support that makes life difficult with Vayne is Blitzcrank. Another is Alistar. He short range makes them a pain in the ass. In lanes like that, farm carefully, get a Doran's or two, maybe Wriggle's, and when you've got ult and lvl 4 or 5 W, get some kills.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]But no matter what lane you face and how aggressive you can play based on that lane, you always max [[Silver Bolts]]? Isn't [[Silver Bolts]] only better if you [i]can[/i] actually play aggressively?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I always max it first. If jungler ganks, they are 100% dead because I do real damage. If we have an early dragon and we have to fight, I deal real damage. Yeeep. Always max it first. ^^[/quote]

[quote=BunkerBob]By the time bolts is maxed, you have re-attack boots and possibly a zeal or B.F sword. Its easy to poke with that sort of damage.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Oh lawdy yes it is :)[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]I run AtS reds/AD Quints on vayne. I don't have mana problems, or farming problems, or damage problems. Q>E>W>W>W>R>W>E>W. USUALLY i get zeal>BF, but i've been known to build TBC first item. Sometimes, if the game is going well, i just build tanky. Vayne is really versitile in that she can almost function as an anti-carry off tank.[/quote]