Real talk how do I stop graves on bottom

[quote=OMGchoco]I play support and my partner (Normally Cait) and I always get demolished by graves on bot lane. We can normally hold our own but as soon as we slip up once or a jungler comes we normally fall apart any advice and pushing him off lane and winning the lane against graves?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]You can't, Graves is OP.[/quote]

[quote=Stergioss]A good choice is picking a champion with a slow,stun or fear.That will allow catlyn to land 1~2 hits...[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]Caitlyn > graves atm. seriously, that's like one of the only champs. Go taric/Caitlyn. Taric stuns- as soon a he does you set a trap on the spot and then AA him. Gg[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Graves can easily trade with Caitlyn. I honestly don't think any other AD carry can beat Graves in a fight at the moment, the best thing to do is probably just try to farm safely without engaging him. Assuming equal skill levels and no big mistakes that is.[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]Caitlyn simply out ranges him, and they both have gap-closers/escapes So on a equal skill level there should be no reason for the caitlyn to not win.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Yes, but Graves has absolutely ridiculous burst damage on the level of an AP carry and Caitlyn does not. His gapcloser also gives him a massive AS steroid whereas Caitlyn's gives her bugger all. The only thing in Caitlyn's favour is her long range, and her harass is easily nullified by any support with a heal or a well timed shield. I'm serious, Graves' ultimate plus his Q can burst you from 100% to like 30% health right away. More if he's been farming well or got kills.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Taric+Brand. Pick any high damage combo based caster, brand, orianna, and Veigar all work well. Then pick a click stun character, Taric, Sion, and Annie work well. The best combo is Taric+Brand however, because Taric gives bran armor against AD carries, and Brand brings a stun as part of his rotation(E>Q>W). Soraka+Graves beats Taric+Cait btw.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]Poppy/Soraka or Yorick/randomsupportthoughidgowithjannaonthisone Seriously though, once Poppy gets a Sheen she can do mean things to Graves. Yorick just zones him by spamming ghost whenever he gets too close[/quote]

[quote=OMGchoco]I like the idea of strictly outfarming him gonna try this out being completely passive and just zoning with Alistar to peel off any attempts to gank.[/quote]