Dodge on Udyr

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=dufftime]It's sooo good against Kogmaw and Vayne and those high threat per attack champs as well ^_^[/quote] ^ Dodge OP lategame. I will miss it once its gone.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Restrictnine] Useful mainly against ashe. I personally never ran dodge and did just fine. Its good against aa heavy teams, and synergizes well with his passive, but its way more gimmicky now. Singed and Udyr will miss nimbleness....... Curious to see what they do with Udyr's passive.[/quote] Yea, I'm thinking it's incredibly gimmicky now. Mostly good against Ashe, Kog and fed enemy carries (D:).. That reminds me. Our Vayne fed Tryndamere 8kills in 10minutes at bot lane. She was AMAZING D; I'm betting they replace dodge with armor+MR or damage reduction. Either ~3% damage reduction per stack or ~5/10/15 armor and MR depending on level per stack. (no, 45 armor won't be as OP as it sounds in lategame, there are diminishing returns to account for too since Udyr should be building tanky anyways)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Having about 20% dodge turns a good tank into a super tank when there's a Vayne or a Kog.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Duff, how is dodge>Vayne? Even if you dodge, you still get a silver bolt counter.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Because contrary to what everyone seems to believe, most of Vayne's damage is NOT in the true damage proc. It's from her ultimate when you factor crit and such. Yes the true damage is part of why she deeps so hard but if 1/5th of her attacks are missing completely then her damage is gonna suffer dramatically. End game Caitlyn suffers as well. Any full gear carry tbh but Kog and Vayne are just the scariest imho.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]Dodge is great all game. Its not reliable early because you don't have the bulk to depend on it, but once you get your bulky items adding dodge in is ridiculous. Right, so every time you do hit me its not much, but then on top of that I get to avoid 1/4 of your damage? Maybe more? Dodge is a direct counter to hyper endgame carries. (my opinion)[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]If dodge is going to be removed completely, yet another simplicty victim would fall at the hand of Riot. Also seeing Jax losing his unique playstyle would be sad nevertheless. But they cant buff it/ carelessly add more dodge items without rendering too many ADs useless. If they'd establish a new DR on dodge or considerately build new dodge items, it could work out somehow, but then you'd need an equivalent state against casters. Sth like [[Evasion]] for example.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]It is going to be removed, Morello posted as much not long ago. [url=http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/20440/?p=3]Source.[/url] [quote=]1) Are you going to remove dodge completely?[/quote] [quote=]1) Eventually, yes.[/quote][/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Dodge is a stupid mechanic any way. They were silly to even put it into the game...[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=PotatisFarfar] Dodge is a stupid mechanic any way. They were silly to even put it into the game... [/quote] I personally disagree. I see it as the opposite of crit.[/quote]