Serpe's Jungling Corner!

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Zeprido] [quote=ZioSerpe] let's say if ther was a champion with a passive debuff to enemy damage, a skillshot nuke, a shield granting slow on his attack, an AoE armor debuff and a suppression ult with depositioning, he would prolly be 1st in the for fun tier indeed, and maybe even to consider in a serious tier (even if not high) due to great ganking potential and disruprive power, [u][b]yet I should test it to be sure where to place it.[/b][/u] Sadly there is no such a champion in the league of legends to my knoweledge. [/quote] You should add this hypothetical champion to the list. [/quote] Seriusly, I'd rather die slowly and very painfully [quote=DuffTime] Yeah it would almost remind you of Urgot but that would be preposterous. [/quote] No such thing Urgot exists in my LoL, stop being nonsensical; maybe you're confusing with HoN[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]I'ts Saturday! as promised I updated the Tier list with the rsoults from the tests Here's a detailed Resume [[cho'gath]] I was unfair to him and had him way too low just because I prefer him as solo top, yet as a jungler he's even better with the new jungle, he stays in there for ages without ever going low, he's fast as fuck and stacking [[feast]] fast is amazing I belive his major flaw is that his ganks are hughly dependent on hitting [[rapture]], but if the lane he ganks provides some initial CC pick up an umbrealla, because it's gonna rain shit. [[Olaf]] Actually had him way too low aswell, he can't compete with his version in lane, but he has decent clear times and gets enough gold to be enough effective, ganks are lackluster, but if he gets on an enemy and locks him down with consecutive [[undertrow]] the enemy is gonna blow up [[nunu]] Had him a bit too low. He's fast and ultrasafe jungle, and he's an amazing jungle thief, his ganks are still not good as they used to be as his damage is really low. [[malphite]] Moving up in ranks. Oh malph why was I so mean to you? Seriusly, he's excellent, only real flaw his pre-6 gank. [[Jarvan IV]] Moved up quite a lot, I had it all wrong on him. I kinda stopped jungling with him since he kept getting nerfed, but after a brief IRC chat with Saintvicious and some testings I'm here to atone for my sins. He has excelent clearings, he's on hell of a duelist and he has an amazing lvl 2 gank power. He's tied with malphite because I can't really tell wich one has the edge here, will do some more tests and get back at you in next update [[Tryndamere]] Had to Give him credit, he's batshit insane everywhere, even in the jungle. He's just too damn strong at the moment. [[Fizz]] Moved up a lil as he is definitively better than I what I thought. Good clearing times, great duelist his ganks are nothing special pre-6 I still don't suggest to jungle im as he's doesn't use his power at is full potential. [[Sion]] Holy crap I forgot about him; I don't think he's a great jugler per se, but his ganks are so annoying and he does have an easy life in the jungle. [[Blitzcrank]] Not exactly the fastest jungler alive, but he has good ganks. After level 6 he's quite faster thanks to the passive on his ultimate. [[Kayle]] I mean... She's fast... her ganks are nice... she's still Kayle is hard to see a champion fall so horribly the more the game goes on [[Shen]] Well he's sloooooow in the jungle and his ganks are not that good. He's an excelent duelist tho and has some very good aspects. [[Nasus]] O hey Nasus has some nice ganking power, too bad he's really all about farming Q and he just can't do that as good as in a solo lane (he doesn't, he just fucking doesn't). He's also got bad clearing timings. [[Ahri]] Oh hai new champion. She's a decent jungler, about nicely fast, has good sustain. She has bad ganks thobasically no CC outside charm, wich is very easy to avoid. Also she has absolutely no gain from Lizard buff as she doesn't have a targeted spell to trigger it.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=ZioSerpe] Also she has absolutely no gain from Lizard buff as she doesn't have a targeted spell to trigger it. [/quote] That's not entirely true. Her R, W and E will all apply it since they are technically single target spells.[/quote]

[quote=listick02]why is fiddle so low?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=listick02] why is fiddle so low? [/quote] [quote=Lugignaf] Weak AoE early and terrible clear times. To make up for those terrible clear times, he has strong 6 ganks BUT it takes him so long to get there that, the lane he's trying to gank is already level 7 or 8. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=ZioSerpe] Also she has absolutely no gain from Lizard buff as she doesn't have a targeted spell to trigger it. [/quote] That's not entirely true. Her R, W and E will all apply it since they are technically single target spells. [/quote] As far as the Tooltip goes it only applies to Targeted spells, not single target spells.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=ZioSerpe] Also she has absolutely no gain from Lizard buff as she doesn't have a targeted spell to trigger it. [/quote] That's not entirely true. Her R, W and E will all apply it since they are technically single target spells. [/quote] As far as the Tooltip goes it only applies to Targeted spells, not single target spells. [/quote] Test pl0x?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Actually with the recent updates your jungle tier list is starting to look pretty spot on. I think GP and Noc deserve Tier 2, Fiddle's and WW deserve Tier 3, but otherwise it might be just about right. Cheers, tier list lookin' pretty good.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] Actually with the recent updates your jungle tier list is starting to look pretty spot on. I think GP and Noc deserve Tier 2, Fiddle's and WW deserve Tier 3, but otherwise it might be just about right. Cheers, tier list lookin' pretty good. [/quote] I have my doubts on GP and Noc aswell, I considered lowering them but to be honest I didnt play them much this week. I played GP in EUW low level as jungler but I have no runes and not enough masteries to judge seriusly. As far as for noc he's just too good at spit pishing and farming, basically he's fast enough at farming that you can keep up with lanes in gold if you move quick around the map. As for WW I still tell ya he's a damn good jungler in the right hands and he's fine where he is to me. Fiddle is just "soooooooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaad, so so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad" right now What can fiddle do for your team? ult What can your team do for fiddle? carry him The one who could have been lower is actually [[Shyvana]], the more I play her the weaker she seems compared to others, her weak ganking is a pain right now.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I do think Shyv may have taken a little hit with the new jungle. Still Tier 2 Imo. Actually I think Udyr/Shyv/Cho all took a little hit with the new jungle, but I think they're all still Tier 2. Udyr might be tier 1.[/quote]