Just read through the majority of the comments, and while I know I'm still very new to the game I agree with maxing Q over W. Q does 30 more damage by the end, is cheaper (might not matter all the time, especially when jungling, but can make a difference), scales 43% better than W (+30% from 70% is a 43% increase for those wondering), is easier to land, and you can easily use it multiple times in an engagement.

Hit the enemy with Q, charge and hit them with W, then hit them with another Q if they're trying to escape. By maxing Q first and a lvl 2/1 Q/W split you would do 345dam/2sec slilence vs 330dam/2.25sec silence if reversed (not that big of a deal either way). But at a 5/1 level you're looking at 885dam/2sec silence vs 445dam/3sec silence (all numbers ignoring AP which favors Q over W). So while that extra 1sec "can" make the difference, I would rather have the extra 440 damage most of the time in addition to how the extra damage from 1-2xQ in the jung helps out compared to only 1xW. I mean if 440 extra damage isn't enough to seal the deal then I doubt the extra 1sec will unless that is "just" enough for a teammate to either do more than 440 damage or for something like a stun/grab to go off. Though I would bet that the point you're 5/1 the extra damage is "more likely" to get the kill than the single extra second of silence.

Just my take and why I prefer Q over W for which one to max first.

Wtf..... i just went 30-6-12 as Cho'Gath first time using this build lol.

Hi, I'm reviewing your guide based upon your request at my Review Shop :)

*deep breath* Your guide is pretty long. Here is your guide contents:

Here's how I think it should be ordered.

Doing what I suggested above will fix your guide. If/when you've implemented these changes, shoot me a PM and I'll come give your guide a more thorough review.

- jhoi

You could include a bit of counterjungling with Cho.
Cho is a great and a fast counter jungler with feast (+ Smite)
You can kill enemy buff super fast with the combo.

I'll list them as I see them. Most comments will be on my general thoughts:

1. Nice title pics!
2. Add some more Cons to make the columns even (His stun is a skillshot, his ult has tiny range, weak without stacks)
3. Masteries: I disagree with your masteries. The most efficient masteries are further down, and you aren't getting those. The few utility masteries are not worth what you are missing from Offense, namely, Executioner You may also consider going full offense, if you are building hybrid damage bruiser.
4. You should include Rylai's Crystal Scepter as another optional item, since your vorpal spikes proc the slow. Plus it makes you more tanky and gives ap as well.
5. Skills: Maybe add tips to use Rupture from or in a bush or above creeps to make it hard to see.
6. Skills: nice screenshots to clarify
7. Skills: Feast: A screenshot of the icon above the enemy telling you if can feast them or not might be helpful. I remember when I started cho and knew there was an icon somewhere but could never find it.
8. Team Work: Don't say your role is a "wide variety", give something more solid, like "tank and bruiser", which you will then elaborate on. I suggest adding a "What your job is" bullet list to make it easier to read. The lux story kind of gets offtrack btw.
9. Should explain why bruiser build is better than other ways of building chogath, or add the other builds. Namely, ROA ap chogath.

Great guide!! +1/+repped

Wow, the guide has really progressed since all these years before (okay its been weeks but feels like a long time >>). Apologize for the very late +vote. xD

Exelent build! Thanks dude :)

nice

@Headvladdi
I barely have come across a game where it lasted that long to even buy trinity force, but I am looking into it myself. It all depends on how the game goes at that point though.

@SirNIFO
I never use the masteries for jungling that are in the guide - I need to fix that :D!

Love the builds, +1 gj!

i like all in ur guide, but trinity on cho is sucks =\

In your jungle guide why not boost your buff in masteries??:D