Ziggs - I'm Sorry, did I ruin your day.

[quote=AncientNecro]This guy is a monster. Period. I love him. His minefield could use a buff imho. His bouncing bomb is amazing, and bouncing over walls for escapes, while dealing damage to the enemy and pushing them farther away is absolutely crucial. MAKE USE OF THE PASSIVE. Keep your damned eye on that timer! Throw him mid = you can gank top or bottom lane SOOOO Easy. That Ultimate is just too much fun man! So what are you guys doing with Ziggs / how are you building him and whatnot?[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I'm going to attempt an odd build later.... AS/AP/Mana RoA+Malady+Sorcs+Rabadon's+Frozen Heart+Lich Bane I know it sounds retarded, but imagine proccing the passive with 5 stacks of malady on someone+Lichbane.... If that fails hard, I'll lose Malady and FH building standard AP. Perhaps a mid game Morello's or DFG.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] I'm going to attempt an odd build later.... AS/AP/Mana RoA+Malady+Sorcs+Rabadon's+Frozen Heart+Lich Bane I know it sounds retarded, but imagine proccing the passive with 5 stacks of malady on someone+Lichbane.... If that fails hard, I'll lose Malady and FH building standard AP. Perhaps a mid game Morello's or DFG. [/quote] Well, Lich Bane does physical damage, and zigg' passive does magic damage. I can see DFG and Lich Bane being very strong, with his relatively low ap ratios, and short range kit with the exception of R.[/quote]

[quote=AncientNecro]Short range kit :/ That Q so far. I can hit champs at turret from middle of lane. Dat E is douchebaggish long range too ^_^ That R is mecha range ^_^[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Short range my ass.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Ziggs looks very strong from what I've seen on streams. Good damage and nais poke. Just somewhat Q dependant.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Short Range = Not Xerath.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]*facepalms* derp Lichbane does do phys damage, but with that said, with his cool downs looking rather intense except for his Q, I could see early malady being a strong item when you couple it with his passive. Get stacks on a target, hit with Q and Short fuse. Could be very strong. But that's hybridizing a pure nuke based champ. It will take some testing, however I doubt it will actually work. If anyone is up to try (because I'm in class) please do ^_^ Malady+Sorcs early DO ET?[/quote]

[quote=CleanCutNinja]Has anyone tried a Life steal build yet? because i saw it was recomended and he does have AoE...so i figured you need quick health, take out a group of minions and leech off of a team fight. but not sure[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]You mean "spell vamp", the issue is Ziggs is ALL AoE. So spell vamp has reduced effectiveness. Couple that with longish cool downs on everything but his Q and you're not looking at a very optimal build. IMO you should just stick with a standard AP build. BUT, that doesn't mean you cant try it.[/quote]