ziggs is NOT op

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Any champ can be op under the right circumstances....karthus was branded op for his ult. To an extent they were right. Vlad for his sustain. Which was right. Tryn for his ult...which I disagree with to an extent but slowly i started to understand. Lee sin for his burst etc. Etc. Take any champ get your ass handed to you by them. All of a sudden you feel they're op. Idk really this isn't wow where frost mages get blown by blizzard all day long. But the truth of the matter is riot tweaks the game effectively. So if they feel something is too strong eventually it will be modified.[/quote]

[quote=MiamiHurricane][quote=example1013] I think Gragas is OP personally. [/quote] Gragas is awesome, and unfortunately (or fortunately, depends on your perspective) he's almost never played. So don't expect any nerfs anytime soon.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=caucheka] ziggs is also the newest champion, hes been out for one day. people will learn how to counter him effectively. but while he has no known counter, he's going to look op in the hands of a skilled player. [/quote] Orianna counter~[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Zoki] I'm here to say that Ziggs is OP. [/quote] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Just to be that guy aye zoki? [/quote] Fucking lawled.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Zoki] You better hit all skills then if you pick him :) [/quote] You better hit all skills then if you pick Gragas You better hit all skills then if you pick Cass You better hit all skills then if you pick Karthus You better hit all skills then if you pick Orianna You better hit all skills then if you pick Lux You better hit all skills then if you pick Brand You better hit all skills then if you pick Ahri Shall I continue..?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=DuffTime] You better hit all skills then if you pick [b]any champ[/b] Shall I continue..? [/quote] Fix'd that for you. On topic, he's really not OP. He can do really quick damage from landing his E right on top of them but his best utility comes from setting up beforehand with E and W. Also, W has a stupid long cooldown at all stages of the game.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Well it's pretty difficult to not hit skills on, say...Ryze. :P[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Lugignaf] You better hit all skills then if you pick [b]any champ[/b] [/quote] Ye that was my point. :P[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]I sense lots of mad bros in this topic.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]SO MAD RARARAR OMG SO MAD[/quote]