ziggs is NOT op

[quote=Dainou]Duff has spoken, case closed..... Until next time new ''X'' champ is OP[/quote]

[quote=Onoku]His damage is fine, but i really do have a problem with the range on his ult.[/quote]

[quote=uwontprevail]I dont like ziggs. I have played him in like 3 games, what a waste of rp. i am not buying any more ap casters. if only ziggs could jungle...[/quote]

[quote=uwontprevail][quote=Onoku] His damage is fine, but i really do have a problem with the range on his ult. [/quote] That ult is retarded, its so easily dodged, unless it is point blank.[/quote]

[quote=example1013][quote=uwontprevail] [quote=Onoku] His damage is fine, but i really do have a problem with the range on his ult. [/quote] That ult is retarded, its so easily dodged, unless it is point blank. [/quote] Lol I tower dived a Ziggs yesterday and didn't quite kill him, but our Ziggs ulted the guy, but their ziggs didn't realize it and stood there, then all of a sudden this giant bomb comes flying in as he's about to hit base with "an enemy has been slain".[/quote]

[quote=uwontprevail][quote=example1013] [quote=uwontprevail] [quote=Onoku] His damage is fine, but i really do have a problem with the range on his ult. [/quote] That ult is retarded, its so easily dodged, unless it is point blank. [/quote] Lol I tower dived a Ziggs yesterday and didn't quite kill him, but our Ziggs ulted the guy, but their ziggs didn't realize it and stood there, then all of a sudden this giant bomb comes flying in as he's about to hit base with "an enemy has been slain". [/quote] I guess bad players will get caught in it. But basically any ad character rapes ziggs to no end. I hate his bouncing bomb, its not just a skill shot, but it is almost impossible to use when an ad character is chasing you. I hate the initial bounce, it always goes over my enemies. If i cast it closer to me, then it doesn't reach, and if i do it farther out, it just jumps over them.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=uwontprevail] I dont like ziggs. I have played him in like 3 games, what a waste of rp. i am not buying any more ap casters. if only ziggs could jungle... [/quote] He can jungle. You don't have to buy anything ever? If you're unhappy with your purchase its your own fault. 3 games? Lol yupp that's enough to completely decide. Anyway I think everyone knows that I like ziggs. Haters gonna hate.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]That ult isn't quite that simple. I was on Ez and I got nailed with at least 50% of the ultis o:[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Unlike Mantheon the ultimate ring doesn't show all channel-/traveltime. I was going to buy him yesterday, but store was down on EUW :/ love area control champs like Gragas and Cassiopeia though so I have to have him :-)[/quote]

[quote=iBradlee][quote=uwontprevail] But basically any ad character rapes ziggs to no end. I hate his bouncing bomb, its not just a skill shot, but it is almost impossible to use when an ad character is chasing you. I hate the initial bounce, it always goes over my enemies. If i cast it closer to me, then it doesn't reach, and if i do it farther out, it just jumps over them. [/quote] 1.) Completely wrong. I've absolutely demolished several AD's mid. You obviously aren't familiar enough with him. 2.) Again, totally wrong. Toss down minefield, once they hit it and get slowed, THEN use bomb. You cold do the same with his satchel, I guess, it would just be a lot less reliable. You obviously aren't familiar enough with him. 3.) Hit them with the initial bounce, if you need to. It will hit them. Hit them with the second bounce. It will hit them. Just aim it properly so it doesn't bounce over them. Again, you're obviously not familiar enough with him yet. Play him a lot more, you'll see his full potential. I don't blame you for feeling the way you do; Ziggs' skillset is quite different, and takes a bit to actually get GOOD at. Until then, yeah, you'll probably find him to be a tad lackluster. Once you're really good with him, he's insanely fun to play, and is very strong.[/quote]