Worse than smoking

[quote=Xenasis]My whole argument regarding smoking is summed up here - [embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yU5XV_N5qU] I don't care if people want to kill themselves. I care if people want to force that upon myself, or any others around them.[/quote]

[quote=Canoas][quote=Samoh] I smoke because I like the taste, and because I enjoy the sensation when smoking a cigarette. [/quote] Congratulations! You just found out that when you're addicted to a substance using that substance makes you feel good and not using it makes you feel bad! Hurray! And you like the taste of cigarettes? Really? lol that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Cigarettes taste aweful, just like alchohol. No one has ever tasted tequila and said "oh, that's lovely!", and the same thing is true for tobacco. Why do you think there aren't any tobacco flavoured gums or ice-cream? No one likes it. Again, no reason at all so far. Also, if you're not an idiot why would you be offended if I called you one? If someone calls me fat I'm not going to be offended because I'm obviously not fat. You're an idiot because the only reason you smoke it is because you're addicted to it. If you were not then you would have another excuse besides "I like it".[/quote]

[quote=Samoh]Enjoying the sensation is clearly addiction, and liking the taste comes with the addiction, at least for me, congratulations you just worked out that I'm addicted to nicotine, something that I thought was ridiculously obvious. I'm not denying that smoking is stupid, not am I denying that I'm addicted to it. The point I am trying to get across is that mindlessly telling people things like this, which we already know, isn't going to help anyone, if anything all it's going to do is get people into a huff and a puff. You also ignored everything else I said once again but that's fine. And the part where I said that I didn't like being called an idiot was clearly sarcasm, as an attempt to lighten the tone so we could carry on the debate without getting sarky.[/quote]

[quote=Blowfeld]Smoked ten years. Stopped. Feel more happy now. Don't mind other people smoking. But what I hate is when I am eating and somebody next to me lights a cigg without asking me, if it's ok with me eating...[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru][quote=Xenasis] My whole argument regarding smoking is summed up here - [embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yU5XV_N5qU] I don't care if people want to kill themselves. I care if people want to force that upon myself, or any others around them. [/quote] i remember that scene +rep[/quote]

[quote=Forgottenduty]Blowfeld, good point. I think this is annoying for any person smoker or not. This doesn't happen ofter though, smoking inside public buildings is illegal (or at least it is here).[/quote]

[quote=Canoas][quote=Samoh] Enjoying the sensation is clearly addiction, and liking the taste comes with the addiction, at least for me, congratulations you just worked out that I'm addicted to nicotine, something that I thought was ridiculously obvious. I'm not denying that smoking is stupid, not am I denying that I'm addicted to it. The point I am trying to get across is that mindlessly telling people things like this, which we already know, isn't going to help anyone, if anything all it's going to do is get people into a huff and a puff. You also ignored everything else I said once again but that's fine. And the part where I said that I didn't like being called an idiot was clearly sarcasm, as an attempt to lighten the tone so we could carry on the debate without getting sarky. [/quote] I ignored the rest of your post because not forcing other people to breath your smoke is a given, it's not considered a good thing. It's like saying "be glad I didn't stab you". I'm not going to be glad because you didn't make me inhale your disgusting smoke, I'll remain the same as nothing changed for me. Also, you admit the only reason you enjoy it is because you're addicted yet you claim you're not stupid? How does that work?[/quote]

[quote=Samoh][quote=Canoas] [quote=Samoh] Enjoying the sensation is clearly addiction, and liking the taste comes with the addiction, at least for me, congratulations you just worked out that I'm addicted to nicotine, something that I thought was ridiculously obvious. I'm not denying that smoking is stupid, not am I denying that I'm addicted to it. The point I am trying to get across is that mindlessly telling people things like this, which we already know, isn't going to help anyone, if anything all it's going to do is get people into a huff and a puff. You also ignored everything else I said once again but that's fine. And the part where I said that I didn't like being called an idiot was clearly sarcasm, as an attempt to lighten the tone so we could carry on the debate without getting sarky. [/quote] I ignored the rest of your post because not forcing other people to breath your smoke is a given, it's not considered a good thing. It's like saying "be glad I didn't stab you". I'm not going to be glad because you didn't make me inhale your disgusting smoke, I'll remain the same as nothing changed for me. Also, you admit the only reason you enjoy it is because you're addicted yet you claim you're not stupid? How does that work? [/quote] It's actually not a given, a lot of people don't do all of that sadly, and are fairly inconsiderate. Being addicted to something/having one bad flaw doesn't automatically make me stupid. I would be stupid if I only smoked because I thought I looked cool, or if I hated smoking but still did it, I have made the choice to smoke and accept the consequences, I know I'm addicted too it. If I denied that I was addicted to it, and I didn't even really like it, then I would be an idiot. My question too you is, do you automatically dislike someone because they smoke?[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]Yeah, and some people stab others as well. Does it mean that not stabbing is good? No, not being stabbed and not breathing someone else's smoke is the neutral state. I have several friends who are smokers and I'm fine with it. Some people started smoking to cope with stress and I'm fine with that, but if the reason is because it feels good then to me it's stupid, because it means that you started smoking for no reason. It didn't feel good back then and it certainly didn't taste good either, so why did you start smoking? It's not for smoking that I call some stupid, it's for starting to smoke and losing control of it.[/quote]

[quote=Samoh][quote=Canoas] Yeah, and some people stab others as well. Does it mean that not stabbing is good? No, not being stabbed and not breathing someone else's smoke is the neutral state. I have several friends who are smokers and I'm fine with it. Some people started smoking to cope with stress and I'm fine with that, but if the reason is because it feels good then to me it's stupid, because it means that you started smoking for no reason. It didn't feel good back then and it certainly didn't taste good either, so why did you start smoking? It's not for smoking that I call some stupid, it's for starting to smoke and losing control of it. [/quote] Hmm, thinking about me starting smoking I would say it's because a couple of my good friends were and I'd always wanted to try it, I did, then I got some more and so on. So I guess it was peer pressure, even though nobody ever forced me to do anything/asked me to try it. I don't think any reason to start smoking can truly be justified, unless there is some medical use for it, which I really don't think is a thing seen as it would probably just do more harm than good. Either way I do understand peoples view points, but I think some people are too concerned about others, and in the end they just end off coming across like ass-holes because they can't keep their opinions to themselves/friends. It's damn hard to have a debate with you man, everything you say is sketchy/insulting really... Edit: I was being too nice.[/quote]