Worse than smoking

[quote=Samoh][quote=Canoas] [quote=Samoh] Enjoying the sensation is clearly addiction, and liking the taste comes with the addiction, at least for me, congratulations you just worked out that I'm addicted to nicotine, something that I thought was ridiculously obvious. I'm not denying that smoking is stupid, not am I denying that I'm addicted to it. The point I am trying to get across is that mindlessly telling people things like this, which we already know, isn't going to help anyone, if anything all it's going to do is get people into a huff and a puff. You also ignored everything else I said once again but that's fine. And the part where I said that I didn't like being called an idiot was clearly sarcasm, as an attempt to lighten the tone so we could carry on the debate without getting sarky. [/quote] I ignored the rest of your post because not forcing other people to breath your smoke is a given, it's not considered a good thing. It's like saying "be glad I didn't stab you". I'm not going to be glad because you didn't make me inhale your disgusting smoke, I'll remain the same as nothing changed for me. Also, you admit the only reason you enjoy it is because you're addicted yet you claim you're not stupid? How does that work? [/quote] It's actually not a given, a lot of people don't do all of that sadly, and are fairly inconsiderate. Being addicted to something/having one bad flaw doesn't automatically make me stupid. I would be stupid if I only smoked because I thought I looked cool, or if I hated smoking but still did it, I have made the choice to smoke and accept the consequences, I know I'm addicted too it. If I denied that I was addicted to it, and I didn't even really like it, then I would be an idiot. My question too you is, do you automatically dislike someone because they smoke?[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]Yeah, and some people stab others as well. Does it mean that not stabbing is good? No, not being stabbed and not breathing someone else's smoke is the neutral state. I have several friends who are smokers and I'm fine with it. Some people started smoking to cope with stress and I'm fine with that, but if the reason is because it feels good then to me it's stupid, because it means that you started smoking for no reason. It didn't feel good back then and it certainly didn't taste good either, so why did you start smoking? It's not for smoking that I call some stupid, it's for starting to smoke and losing control of it.[/quote]

[quote=Samoh][quote=Canoas] Yeah, and some people stab others as well. Does it mean that not stabbing is good? No, not being stabbed and not breathing someone else's smoke is the neutral state. I have several friends who are smokers and I'm fine with it. Some people started smoking to cope with stress and I'm fine with that, but if the reason is because it feels good then to me it's stupid, because it means that you started smoking for no reason. It didn't feel good back then and it certainly didn't taste good either, so why did you start smoking? It's not for smoking that I call some stupid, it's for starting to smoke and losing control of it. [/quote] Hmm, thinking about me starting smoking I would say it's because a couple of my good friends were and I'd always wanted to try it, I did, then I got some more and so on. So I guess it was peer pressure, even though nobody ever forced me to do anything/asked me to try it. I don't think any reason to start smoking can truly be justified, unless there is some medical use for it, which I really don't think is a thing seen as it would probably just do more harm than good. Either way I do understand peoples view points, but I think some people are too concerned about others, and in the end they just end off coming across like ass-holes because they can't keep their opinions to themselves/friends. It's damn hard to have a debate with you man, everything you say is sketchy/insulting really... Edit: I was being too nice.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Searz] I've been curious about that. Tried it once, but I mostly coughed. Might try it again some time, cuz it seems better than smoking in just about every way. (except for moniez, it's prolly expensive) [/quote] Dunno, personally don't smoke any myself but if it's easy enough for high school students to get it every week then I'd imagine that it's not too expensivo. The coughing goes away the more you smoke it, but the actual effects on your lungs are minimal (hell, Michael Phelps the fucking olympian swimmer smoked pot)[/quote]

[quote=Samoh][quote=Searz] I've been curious about that. Tried it once, but I mostly coughed. Might try it again some time, cuz it seems better than smoking in just about every way. (except for moniez, it's prolly expensive) [/quote] Can have some shitty side effects just like smoking though, depression/schitz/paranoia are pretty common [b]as far as I know[/b]. I know it's generally pretty cheap, if you can keep it to an occasional thing at parties or whatever then it's fine, and like B-Wong said the coughing goes away the more you use it.[/quote]

[quote=Canoas][quote=Samoh] and in the end they just end off coming across like ass-holes because they can't keep their opinions to themselves/friends. [/quote] At least I have been debating with my friends in mind. I don't really care what happens to someone who I don't know. It's to my friends I say "that's bad for you", not to random people on the street. I've known them for almost 10 years and it would be rather sad if they weren't here 10 years from now.[/quote]

[quote=Samoh][quote=Canoas] [quote=Samoh] and in the end they just end off coming across like ass-holes because they can't keep their opinions to themselves/friends. [/quote] At least I have been debating with my friends in mind. I don't really care what happens to someone who I don't know. It's to my friends I say "that's bad for you", not to random people on the street. I've known them for almost 10 years and it would be rather sad if they weren't here 10 years from now. [/quote] They'll obviously be here unless they're very lucky, and I could never be friends with you then! My friends who don't smoke know it's bad for me, and I know it's bad for me, we all understand and let live. If one of my friends started constantly telling me it was bad for me I'd have to fucking tell them to shut the hell up, nobody is a friend of mine if they consider me to have less intelligence than a potato.[/quote]

[quote=Kirluu]I don't mind people smoking, so long as they don't do it around me. Once I have my own place, nobody will be allowed to smoke indoors. I can't stand the stench of it. Peeps can go outside for the while of the cigarette or two. And for the note: That's not hypocryptical. That's about a genuine distaste for the smell that comes from cigarettes. I don't give a fuck if people I play games with smoke though. The smoke doesn't bother me over the microphone, obviously. As long as the smoking doesn't affect their concentration level in the game, in such a way that they feed from it, in which case, I would want to request that the smoking is kept to the breaks between each LoL game (In the case of playing LoL). ^That be mah thoughts :s Kirluu~[/quote]

[quote=Samoh]I would be surprised if I was allowed to smoke inside anywhere apart from my own home, which I don't really do myself, but my parents do, which is really shit because I have friends who don't smoke and I know don't want to smell the smoke, always keep my room and my bathroom air freshened up, and no smoking upstairs from those two for sure. I always smoke outside.[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]@Samoh Obviously I'm not constantly saying "You're stupid for smoking" over and over again. I don't even mention it that often. I usually only say something if they're going to pull another cigarette in less than 30 mins. It's up to you to smoke, but smoking more than a pack a day is really nuts.[/quote]