Starting my Rune Page

[quote=niknameisnik]So i hit level twenty a while ago and since then ive been thinking about getting runes. But i realized i had no idea where to start or even if its a good time for me to start it. If i made a page for anyone it would have to be kassadin or cho gath. but since kassadin is banned indefinately :( i cant start his becuase it would be a waste. and cho gath I do everything! AS build AP build On-hit melee build Tank build. just everything. so one rune page would be useless.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]The best two to start with are probably: AD Carry/Top lane tanky DPS/Offtank (could also be used on a jungler): 9x [[Greater mark of strength]] 9x [[Greater seal of resilience]] 9x [[Greater glyph of shielding]] 3x [[Greater quintessence of strength]] AP Carry: 9x [[Greater mark of insight]] 9x [[Greater seal of vitality]] 9x [[Greater glyph of force]] 3x [[Greater quintessence of potency]] The most important rune to buy is [[greater seal of resilience]] because they work very well on almost any role and they allow you to jungle. I'm currently using them on five of my six runepages.[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]^^ Agreed, but i think that you can swap the marks and quints with mpen marks and ap quints too in the solotop/offtank build he gave, makes you tanky and your scream hits like a truck. also helps farm. The most important runes you can buy are the armor seals, they are uuebr op and just plain awesome. Believe i am using them on all but my AP page, if i remember correctly.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I thought [[greater mark of desolation]] was usually a more popular choice? Either way, there's a rune guide on here that's pretty good at directing you at what runes to buy first: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rune-tips-what-secondary-and-primary-means-and-more-24255[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Mowen] I thought [[greater mark of desolation]] was usually a more popular choice? [/quote] They are, but AD marks are better most of the time in my opinion and are more popualar among pro players.[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd][quote=Luther3000] [quote=Mowen] I thought [[greater mark of desolation]] was usually a more popular choice? [/quote] They are, but AD marks are better most of the time in my opinion and are more popualar among pro players. [/quote] Ehhh... Kind of agree, kind of disagree... Really depends on the champ. ArPen scales better into late game if you want to designate yourself as a carry hunter... But honestly im not totally sure about the math behind any of the numbers (what percent extra damage does taking away 1.5 armor compare with adding 1 attack damage, not sure which is a better percentage for damage) but i find good success with arp marks, feels like im doing more damage. Just me personally. Could be wrong, could be in my head. If anyone has some crunched numbers for me, i would love to see it :)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]AD are better earlygame. Unlike ArP they also affect minions, allowing you to last hit more easily and they scale well with certain skills, eg Udyr's [[Tiger Stance]] and Riven's, well, everything. I prefer to tailor my runes toward lane dominance rather than lategame, especially since runes tend to have the most effect on your early game.[/quote]

[quote=niknameisnik]yea i dont know why but even when i play as late game characters i tend to fall of late game. i allways end up securing a few kills before lvl 7 or 8. especially as cho.[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]Hmmm k... looks like i have some more testing to do... and @Niknameisnik, you are probably forgetting to keep farming past midgame XD Farming is essential in EVERY stage of the game in order to keep up with and ahead of the enemy team. Remember that 15 creep kills equals roughly 1 champ kill, so if you have 30 creep score ahead of an enemy champ coming at you with one kill advantage on you, you still have cash (and therefore item) advantage.[/quote]

[quote=niknameisnik]lol yea. after laning sometimes i just roam and unless i get kills i fall behind.[/quote]