Sorry bro I did not see your disclaimer. However know that I did not vote at all. I didn't even bother when I saw the Mana runes first. I will tell why Energy Runes are a waste of money.


All Runes combined = 7.245 Regen/5 seconds. You already gain back 50 Energy/5 seconds so if you do the math then with runes you are now getting +57 Energy/5 seconds. That is not enough additional regen to be worth the price that you pay. It takes 20 seconds normally to refill your energy pool from 0. So with your runes I am going to guess and say it now takes 18 seconds. Wow a whopping 2 seconds. Not worth it.

With your CDR from what you have chosen you can throw a Thundering Shuriken every 2-3 seconds.

Each Thundering Shuriken costs 45 energy when maxed out. If you throw 2 Thundering Shuriken's you spend 90 energy in 5-6 seconds. To get that energy to recover in your pool you have to wait 10 seconds for 100 energy. With your runes you now have to wait 9.5 seconds. 0.5 seconds??? NOT WORTH IT!!!!

All in all you are spending a lot of IP for +7.5 Energy Regen/5 when you already get +50 energy regen/5 so you can wait 0.5 seconds less for an energy recovery of 100.


Personally if I was taking a CDR Kennen build I would take Magic Pen Marks, Cooldown Glyphs, Cooldown Quints, and Ability Power Seals.

Also on a side note I find Lich Bane to be a waste purely on the fact that you are throwing 1/4 of what the item offers down the drain. But that one is more picky for me.

Firstly @ roarr - Thanks! I always forget about the mana on Sheen and Lich Bane. Picking up a Rabadon's Deathcap before Lich Bane totally makes sense, and when I clean up my items section, I will definitely make that adjustment.

@BlackIceT - I tried putting a disclaimer in my intro, but unfortunately it didn't do it's job well enough (tehAsian saw it ^_^). I found placeholders for the Meditation runes/quints, but they don't advise in the tooltip that they are energy per 5. I have removed my disclaimer from the intro, however it looks like I'll need to get feedback to someone in regards to the tooltips.

My question for you good sir, as you were kind enough to at least comment on my guide even if you didn't look at it, is why are energy runes considered such a waste? I know many other Kennen guides focus on stacking AP in runes. My CDR focus intends to be able to smack AP stackers more frequently but maybe not as hard as they hit me. Without that energy regen, I feel that's just more time that I would be waiting for my resources.

I am not trying to say that I'm in the right for picking them, I am trying to learn why they would be a poor choice. I would appreciate an answer beyond "they are a waste", if you can tell me why, that would be awesome.

@tehAsian - Thanks for pointing out my disclaimer! Also, I did find them, however they are not displaying correctly it appears. They were only able to be found if I searched by all types of runes, and just scrolled to the correct name. In the rune tool they do not have the correct icon and neither the tool nor the links themselves show that it is energy per, they show a value per 5 seconds, but they don't indicate what it is for. I'm new to the making guides scene, is there a feedback for the site in regards to links that may be borkt?

@sljunac8 - No, I'm not interested, take your spam elsewhere please.

@Vapora Dark - As I mentioned, I did find them, but not listed where I thought they would be, and not displaying the proper information on the tooltip.

Just gonna point out that whatever he's looking for may NOT actually be in the system. I've searched a thousand times over over the past few days, and flat MR glyphs have just simply disappeared from the runes selection screen on mobafire. They may not be the only thing. :P

Lol I think they are a waste also. Also to be honest I really do not care about what 2K elo players buy for runes. Just because they are 2K elo does not necessarily mean they are the best players ever. :)

2k Elo Ego Ignaxio uses Energy Yellows and Blues, Spell Vamp quints, and Mpen reds :P

IMO a waste of money, but hey whatever works.

@Guide Author I'm pretty sure it's in there somewhere. Look harder ;)

Of all runes why would he choose those??? A lot of people will see that and not even bother looking at the guide? What runes does he use that he cannot find? Energy Regen? Absolutely a waste of runes either way.

Actually Black, he explained he couldnt find the runes and he's using those as replacement.

For the record I am not even going to bother reading this guide. AT ALL. Mana Regen Quints and Seals?? You know Kennen runs on ENERGY right? Do you even know this champion?

also, turn on comment to vote. you dont want people giving you down votes without telling you why

I think you should put Lich Bane after Rabadon's Deathcap because it slows down your build otherwise. The mana from it is pointless so I think you should have a good strong base amount of AP before building something like that. By the time you get Rabadon's Deathcap it will be too late, you won't be doing enough damage and it will feel like you are behind everyone else until you get it. I love getting Lich Bane for Kennen but I feel like it is too early in the game to get that kind of an item. getting Ionian Boots of Lucidity is an interesting choice. I think I might try that, too. For your "Items" section, I think you should list out all of your items and explain it that way instead of listing everything out in paragraphs. It can get a bit confusing that way. Great build I can see you put some good effort into it. +1