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Crit CHANCE?or Crit DAMAGE?RUNES

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I see where this is going. DONT PLAY CRITPLANK MAN JUST DONT DO IT. YOU WILL FEED IF YOU PLAY AGAINST ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN. But, if you aren't... heh... My rant is just flood.


Actually the setup with 9x Greater Mark of Critical Chance + 3x Greater Quintessence of Attack Damage is really strong. Especially when you get an early Avarice Blade. The strongest part of Parrrley is that it can crit, abusing that in the early-game is a great plan.

However, I would never fully build around crit; just use it to dominate the early-game.
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Lucky crits in lane phase can change the entire dynamic, particularly in solo lanes.
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DuffTime wrote:

Lucky crits in lane phase can change the entire dynamic, particularly in solo lanes.


I've heard a number of players have begun taking a single crit chance rune just to have a possibility of a lane crit.
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Luther3000 wrote:



I've heard a number of players have begun taking a single crit chance rune just to have a possibility of a lane crit.

I've been doing it for a while. You'd be surprised how much that 1% makes a difference.


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It is maybe useful to know how crit chance (CC) and crit damage (CD) work.
  • Mathematically speaking, CC enhances your AD with the percentage equal to the amount of CC.
    Example: If I have 20% chance to crit, I will crit once every 5 attacks. This means that every 5 attacks I deal damage equal to 6 attacks. 5 * 1.2 = 6 (20%).

    Our damage formula becomes: Damage = AD * (1 + CC). (CC reduced to a range of 0 - 1)
  • CD enhances your CC by the percentage equal to the amount of CD. Mathematically speaking of course.
    Example: If I have 50% chance to crit and 50% extra crit damage. Then every 2 attacks I will crit and this crit will deal 250% damage. This means that every two attacks I deal damage equal to 3½ attacks. 2 * 1.75 = 3.5 (50% * 1.5 (50% CD)) And we can see that, that is equal to having a CC of 75%.

    Our damage formula expands to: Damage = AD * (1 + CC * (1 + CD)) (Both CC and CD reduced to a range of 0 - 1)

Getting early crit chance is okay but alternative runes are usually better due to the low amount of crit chance and the low amount of base AD you will have. (e.g. 0.93% per Greater Mark of Critical Chance). Crit damage is extremely worthless early-game and even late-game it won't make much of a difference since the percentages are low, other stats are better and there are no ways of stacking it besides runes.
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Luther's setup is better than the Arp Marks + AD Quints since season two. Luther's setup is superior in damage during early- and mid-game. The damage difference in the late-game is negligible. Additionally, Luther's setup allows you to last-hit easier in the early-game which is a nice feature.

Dood, get your facts straight before saying things like this --.--

Assuming offensive masteries (including 6ArP, 10%ArP and 3AD) and AD quints:
ArP marks give more damage against targets with 21 or more armor at above 63 damage.
That means that you'll deal more damage when you reach level 2 or 3 on a standard AD carry (~47 base AD and 3AD per level).
Also; you deal more damage with ArP marks with rank 1 in any physical ability that deals more than 63 damage per 1.0 in ratio.

TL;DR:
ArP>AD marks ALL THE TIME against enemies with more than 20 armor.

Lasthitting gets a bit easier with AD marks though.
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Searz wrote:


Dood, get your facts straight before saying things like this --.--

ArP marks give more damage against targets with 20 or more armor at 53 damage and above.
Also; you deal more damage with ArP marks with rank 1 in any physical ability that deals more than 53 damage per 1.0 in ratio.

TL;DR:
ArP>AD marks ALL THE TIME against enemies with more than 20 armor(assuming 6ArP from offense masteries).


Did the math and AD is better, didn't even take 10% arp of Weapon Expertise into account. You're wrong on this one Searz
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Edited with all offensive masteries included.

I'm still right. Just less overwhelmingly right :P
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nope you aren't
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**** just got real.

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