What is the best support and carry bot?

[quote=Tomer8009]on my opinion its [[alistar]] and [[graves]]/[[caitlyn]][/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]all comes down to teamcomp, and enemy bot-lane. Soraka-corki would beat both thoose 2 botlanes for example. And imo. Soraka corki is the strongest bot-lane btw :p Or taric corki, dat armour shred so terror![/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]Totally depends on how comfortable the two players are with each other. [[taric]][[graves]] is baws because they both have passive armor to give to graves. [[soraka]][[ezreal]] lets ez spam spam spam his q and w which leads to crazy harassment, and makes him damn near impossible to kill between soraka silence and ez arcane shift. [[ezreal]][[maokai]] is also completely OP, whenever i do that i ALWAYS get a kill lvl 2 without jungle help. [[maokai]] also pairs really well with [[tristana]] b/c of her leap after twisted advance. [[vayne]] and [[blitzcrank]] is arguably the best kill lane there is. as stated, depends on how well the ad and support synergize.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Depends for what you aim. The kings of lane dominace Bot are [[Jarven]] and [[Leona]] this has the sole reasone to shut the enemy down. Besides from that the rule is passiv lanes can lose to aggassive lanes early but most passiv lanes out scale aggassiv lanes late game. An example for that would be [[Kog'Maw]]/[[Soraka]] early game this lane is quite weak but in late game there is nothing that reaches the damage and heal out put. You can try to shut them down and win the game befor they reach that status by running stron early mid game champs. [[Graves]]/[[Leona]] would be such a lane. But then again a [[Graves]]/[[Leona]] combo would not work that well with a team that want to reach late game... Unless they get super fed. In genrel in low elo it is better to run aggassiv lanes. Most people can't handel the aggassion and get demotivated.[/quote]

[quote=koksei]Blitz Graves/Wayne Leona/Ali + Trist are quite some nice combos also Ashe Janna[/quote]

[quote=animorte][[Taric]] and [[Poppy]] seem to work extremely well. CC + Armor + Sustain + Burst. Completely off this 'meta', [[Dr. Mundo]] and [[Mordekaiser]] are almost unstoppable together. [quote=The Overmyynd] [[vayne]] and [[blitzcrank]] is arguably the best kill lane there is. [/quote] Just recently I saw an [[Ezreal]]/[[Lulu]] annihilate [[Blitzcrank]]/[[Vayne]].[/quote]

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[quote=The Overmyynd][quote=animorte] Just recently I saw an [[Ezreal]]/[[Lulu]] annihilate [[Blitzcrank]]/[[Vayne]]. [/quote] The lane would work well, LOTS of harass with an ez/lulu, and neither vayne nor blitz have any way to heal outside pots. My question is, how many [[rocket grab]]s did the blitz land, and were any of them from the bush, and if they were, was vayne in range to [[condemn]] their asses to the wall? Aggressive kill lanes are ALL about team communication. If your timing is off just a little, you're gonna get your shit wrecked. Why i added the 'arguably' in there, always room for error on YOUR part and fantastic cooperation on the ENEMY's part.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=koksei] Blitz Graves/Wayne [/quote] I see what you did there..[/quote]

[quote=animorte][quote=The Overmyynd] [quote=animorte] Just recently I saw an [[Ezreal]]/[[Lulu]] annihilate [[Blitzcrank]]/[[Vayne]]. [/quote] The lane would work well, LOTS of harass with an ez/lulu, and neither vayne nor blitz have any way to heal outside pots. My question is, how many [[rocket grab]]s did the blitz land, and were any of them from the bush, and if they were, was vayne in range to [[condemn]] their asses to the wall? Aggressive kill lanes are ALL about team communication. If your timing is off just a little, you're gonna get your shit wrecked. Why i added the 'arguably' in there, always room for error on YOUR part and fantastic cooperation on the ENEMY's part. [/quote] Very true... I wish I remember where I saw the video. Vayne actually landed a perfect Condemn, pinning both of them against the wall. Lulu, ulted Ez barely keeping him alive and then Ez got pulled out from under the turret, Flashing just in time to avoid Blitz stun. His mobility combined with Lulu buffs got him a double kill. Well played by both sides, I guess Ez just had a lot more damage (and perfect timing). Of course this followed through the rest of the game. Don't let an AD Carry get fed.[/quote]