Questions about healing

[quote=Visfarix]What constitutes healing? I know the obvious sources like the summoner spell Heal or Soraka's [[Astral Blessing]] spell. But what is the definition of healing? Is it simply just life gain? Would life gained from lifesteal and spellvamp count as "healing"? How bout from maxHP increase sources like chogath's [[Feast]] skill? After all, he gets increased maxHP and is healed for that amount from devouring things, does the HP he get count as "healing"? Reason I'm curious is because of the item [[Spirit Visage]]. Since it improves "healing and regeneration effects by 20%" would it improve chogath's heal so that he gets 218 HP x 1.2 ([[Feast]] stack + [[Carnivore]] passive) every time he eats something?? Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my question and sate my curiosity[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]I think healing is a very general term, I will define it as life recovery. Spirit Visage improves life recovery greatly, no matter what kind of life recovery happens If Soraka uses her heal while YOU (not her) have a Spirit Visage on, you will gain the additional life recovery from the passive If you have a Vampiric Scepter and auto attack a minion while having a Spirit Visage, you will gain additional life from the lifesteal Same thing with everything else. It only increases life recovery.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]The techinal term 'to heal' only constitutes the ability to heal without having to actively attack anything, thus lifesteal and spell vamp are excluded. BUT [icon=spirit visage] accounts for all healing affects; including lifesteal, spell vamp, basically everything that Vladimir does, self heals, and AoE heals. Yes, in this case it refers to the general life recovery. Basically anything that heals you will be affected by [icon=spirit visage].[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix]Ok, I'm getting somewhat incomplete answers. So far I've learned that healing can be defined as any life recovery, and so life steal and spell vamp will get affected by [[Spirit Visage]]. But what about increases in max HP? For example Chogath's [[Feast]] and Jax's Passive [[Equipment Mastery]]+[[Guinsoo's Rageblade]] stacks will give them an increase in maxHP and regular HP during battle. Does the regular HP increase constitute as HP recovery and get affected by [[Spirit Visage]]?[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Visfarix] Ok, I'm getting somewhat incomplete answers. So far I've learned that healing can be defined as any life recovery, and so life steal and spell vamp will get affected by [[Spirit Visage]]. But what about increases in max HP? For example Chogath's [[Feast]] and Jax's Passive [[Equipment Mastery]]+[[Guinsoo's Rageblade]] stacks will give them an increase in maxHP and regular HP. Does the regular HP increase constitute as HP recovery and get affected by [[Spirit Visage]]? [/quote] Again, it's life [i]recovery[/i] When Cho'Gath feasts a unit, he recovers some health due to his passive BUTT his ultimate does [b][u][i]NOT[/b][/u][/i] recover health. It only maxes out the health. I'm not sure how Jax's passive works in conjunction with Rageblade (the more stacks it gets the more AP he gets but does his max health change with the AP increase or does it stay at the highest AP, etc. etc.). In short: Feast + Spirit Visage =/= more max health, just more regen from his passive.[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix][quote=B-Wong] Again, it's life [i]recovery[/i] When Cho'Gath feasts a unit, he recovers some health due to his passive BUTT his ultimate does [b][u][i]NOT[/b][/u][/i] recover health. It only maxes out the health. I'm not sure how Jax's passive works in conjunction with Rageblade (the more stacks it gets the more AP he gets but does his max health change with the AP increase or does it stay at the highest AP, etc. etc.). In short: Feast + Spirit Visage =/= more max health, just more regen from his passive. [/quote] Um wait so you're saying that Chogath's [[Feast]] ability only increases max HP? I thought a level 3 [[Feast]] would increase Cho's max HP by 150 and then give him 150 HP to cover for his sudden increase in max HP. Hum if that's wrong then I need to pay more attention to the game and what happens every time I eat something.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Visfarix] [quote=B-Wong] Again, it's life [i]recovery[/i] When Cho'Gath feasts a unit, he recovers some health due to his passive BUTT his ultimate does [b][u][i]NOT[/b][/u][/i] recover health. It only maxes out the health. I'm not sure how Jax's passive works in conjunction with Rageblade (the more stacks it gets the more AP he gets but does his max health change with the AP increase or does it stay at the highest AP, etc. etc.). In short: Feast + Spirit Visage =/= more max health, just more regen from his passive. [/quote] Um wait so you're saying that Chogath's [[Feast]] ability only increases max HP? I thought a level 3 [[Feast]] would increase Cho's max HP by 150 and then give him 150 HP to cover for his sudden increase in max HP. Hum if that's wrong then I need to pay more attention to the game and what happens every time I eat something. [/quote] Yep, he doesn't have 100% recovery with his ult.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]As B-Wong said. Feast increases your Max HP Pool (more or less like you would buy ruby crystal), you get the HP with the item, it is not considered a heal, this works also just like the red potion. You can drink it in midfight to "heal" yourself. But you will just increase your max hp. Spirit visage will not affect the feast hp boost. It works with: Heals - Taric/Sona/Soraka and so on HP gains - WW passive/Irelia W/Cho'gath passive/Xin passive and so on Lifesteal SpellVamp Anything i missed?[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Spell vamp.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Thx, edited[/quote]