My little Nasus Changes

[quote=Deluth]^ Also, slows are multiplicative, so if you add TriForce proc/FH to [[Wither]], the slow is actually only increased to around 96% for both AS and MS. 1% difference. Tank Nasus cannot simply run into the enemy team unless he wants to get kited hard, or bursted down past 40-50 minutes (when LW/[[Void Staff]] start getting bought). Wither is strong, but a necessary tool for Nasus to function properly. Wither allows Nasus to get to the enemy AD Carry while taking minimal damage from him. If Wither was nerfed enough, Nasus' late game, where he is strongest, would cease to exist because he would get melted before being able to do any meaningful damage. Wither also makes up for [[Spirit Fire]] and [[Fury of the Sands]], which are both pretty meh spells for a hypercarry since they have no meaningful scaling (well, besides AP Nasus) and relatively little effects.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You call good dmg, free ad and free hp a bad spell? A spell which you can use to 1vs2 if an enemy ganks? And the armor reduction on Spirit Fire is very usefull aswell, since you don't get any armopen.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999][quote=Deluth] ^ Also, slows are multiplicative, so if you add TriForce proc/FH to [[Wither]], the slow is actually only increased to around 96% for both AS and MS. 1% difference. [/quote] The formula is this: Strongest Slow = S Other slows = x,y,z S% * (100% + {35% * x}) = Total slow Or, the strongest slow is applied at 100%, all other slows are applied at 35% (weakened by 65%) of their normal strength and added multiplicatively. So, [[Trinity Force]] + [[Wither]] = 95% * (100% + {35% * 35%}) = approximately a 107% slow. Not that it would matter or change that much, because it's not always 95% on [[Wither]]. Should cap at like 99% or something or it would probably be considered a snare. From researching AS slows just stack multiplicatively, no special rules ... so, I guess here goes [[Wither]] * [[Frozen Heart]] aura = 95% * (100% + 20%) = 114% AS slow. I think it caps at .2 Attacks per second. Dunno, looking back at it those numbers seem a little off, but I think they are right. Thus concludes my useless math no one cares about :3[/quote]

[quote=Deluth]@Jpikachu I think your formula is a bit wrong, since slows can't go over 100%. I can't find a formula for slow right now, but if I remember correctly, the formula for slow ratio should be slow ratio=(1-S)*(1-(.35*x)). Or .05*(1-.1225)=.05*.8775=.043875, so the remaining movement speed should be 4.4% of original movement speed. This is a 95.6% slow, while wither itself is a 95% slow. So it's even a bit under 1% difference. [url=http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Movement_speed#Slow_stacking]Source: Read the example[/url] @NicknameMy Meh, you are using subjective terms, the damage on [[Fury of the Sands]] can technically be "good", but it's split amongst multiple targets, DOT, and has short range. The free AD has a ramp up time, and Nasus doesn't benefit much from AD (few AS items, no scaling). The free hp is strong early, but by late game, the hp falls off just like any non-scaling move (Irelia's [[Hiten Style]], for example). 1v2ing when ganked classifies as early game, so that example doesn't really work when we are talking about late game strength. Plus, if you are 1v2ing early game it's probably because you farmed Q well, not because you have ult. I guess I am using subjective terms as well though, so this is also just an opinion. Personally when I play Nasus (which is always :P), I hardly ever notice my ult late game, and I don't see how anyone can notice something doing 80 damage per second when you are dishing out 800 damage every 2.5 seconds or so using Q. [[Spirit Fire]] armor pen is nice, true, but that's about it. Again, it has no scaling and is only useful if you can actually reach your target. It doesn't help Nasus' actual problem, being kited, at all.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999]I figured I did some math wrong, gonna take a look at this lol.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]600 HP are around 1800 effective HP because of your resistances. That is a very huge amount. Or do you say that the HP on [[feast]] is useless?[/quote]