True damage team: Viable??

[quote=NicknameMy]Since when has a team of [[Cho'gath]], [[Olaf]], [[Darius]](very aggressive ks-support, going aura/tank), [[Ahri]] and [[Vayne]] 2 AD-Carries? [[Zeke's Herald]] would be a nice aura-item for this team. Also more spells for [[Darius]](look at dat base HP). Also, the combination of [[feast]]+[[Noxian Guillotine]] means heavy terror. [[Ahri]] and [[darius]] can pull enemies into the team where they instantly die from the combined true dmg. [[Cho'gath]] can root them in that place aswell. Also this is a big wall(talking about [[cho'gath]]) which can easily protect [[vayne]].[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]And came this dark day when teamfights were theorycrafted ... I don't understand why you woud true damage on everyone, if somone is hooked by a Blits (because Darius and Ahri's are bad), no matter what kind of damage you deal, the target dies. And Cho is shit to protect people and would be better used as a Tanky deeps throwing CC everywhere and killing people. Unreliable CC are not able to protect anyone, especially an AD carry attacked by an anti carry.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]But [[vayne]] is pretty safe for an ad-carry with her condemn and tumble. And a [[darius]]+[[vayne]] lane means pain.[/quote]

[quote=Pranzatelli]Everyone keeps forgetting that Red Buff is true damage. And this team is too damage-oriented; you aren't going to get a really serious defensive character if everyone's trying to stack their true damage. And the only people who have particularly debilitating CC are Ahri and Cho and MAYBE Vayne, circumstances permitting. Though Corki would be a better example of true-damage-carrying. Plus, as FalseoGod was so kind to point out, you can counter flat or poorly-scaling true damage (HI AHRI) by building more health. Against that team, a Warmog's will replace any defensive items aside from Mercury's Treads you could really need.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]the thing about this team comp, is it lacks the ability for team fights and such. each champ relies more on killing one champ at a time. but other than that, i like the idea :).[/quote]

[quote=Pranzatelli]ALSO you should add a champ I just thought of. To make sure that towers would aggro Zilean properly, Zilean's Time Bomb deals true damage on each tick (1, 2, 3) which is a WHOPPING TOTAL OF 6 WHOLE TRUE DAMAGE.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote]And the only people who have particularly debilitating CC are Ahri and Cho and MAYBE Vayne, circumstances permitting. Though Corki would be a better example of true-damage-carrying. Plus, as FalseoGod was so kind to point out, you can counter flat or poorly-scaling true damage (HI AHRI) by building more health. Against that team, a Warmog's will replace any defensive items aside from Mercury's Treads you could really need.[/quote] Pranza is right; While few of these characters have hard CC, I have noticed that many of these champions have STELLAR mobility (survivability) in team fights. Ahri has [[spirit rush]] to boost her survivabilty Corki has [[valkyrie]] and vayne has her nasty invisibility from [[final hour]] and [[tumble]]. Although this hypothetical team would have very little defense, this team wouldnt likely need as much defense on their carries as conventional teams. While the other champions like [[darius]] and [[cho'gath]] don't have natural mobility like these folks, they don't need as much escape moves thanks to their tankiness. While [[Ahri]] may have a trouble with health stacking champions, the virtue about carries such as corki and vayne, is that the true damage they deal is a [b]supplement to their damage[/b]. If an enemy team stacks health, these carries (particularly vayne) will still be able to absolutely shred through loads of health.[/quote]

[quote=Pranzatelli]Valkyrie still doesn't make up for a lack of CC and initiation and a sub-optimal team comp that lacks a synergistic support/carry lane (so Corki/Vayne might have trouble). Vayne, though; Vayne still has nasty mobility/invisibility. However, to reset the cooldown of her Tumble, she has to auto-attack, and so is guaranteed to be out of invisibility in between short hops. A fed Vayne might not have to worry about this and just shred the enemy team, but then again having a fed Vayne on your team doesn't mean your team comp is a good idea, it just means you have a particularly hard carry.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Rofl Pranza I wasn't suggesting that this team would have a duo-carry bottom lane, silly! :) We're just probably on the wrong page, here. Maybe i'm going a little gung-ho on the true damage emphasis. Maybe the support can just be a conventional support haha; 4 true damage dealers is enough true damage already ;)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=NicknameMy] Since when has a team of [[Cho'gath]], [[Olaf]], [[Darius]](very aggressive ks-support, going aura/tank), [[Ahri]] and [[Vayne]] 2 AD-Carries? [[Zeke's Herald]] would be a nice aura-item for this team. Also more spells for [[Darius]](look at dat base HP). Also, the combination of [[feast]]+[[Noxian Guillotine]] means heavy terror. [[Ahri]] and [[darius]] can pull enemies into the team where they instantly die from the combined true dmg. [[Cho'gath]] can root them in that place aswell. Also this is a big wall(talking about [[cho'gath]]) which can easily protect [[vayne]]. [/quote] Forgetting the Corki that he mentioned are we?[/quote]