Patch Day Preview Discussion

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Jebus McAzn] He's referring to the fact that even if it does take 2 item slots and more gold, you're still getting an additional 105 AP, 50 armor, and a 5% increase on the passive. [/quote] But still, 2 item slots and 2x the cost (about) of the previous item. We'll have to wait and see I guess.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]When I heard they were reverting 'nerfs', I was hoping they'd buff Twitch more, like give us a little AS again on Spray and pray plus AD. Aww. : ([/quote]

[quote=Diego]Well they didn't tell us all of the champions who were receiving buffs this patch. There might still be hope![/quote]

[quote=Visfarix][quote=Diego] Call me crazy but I do foresee alot of whining towards the omega death hat. It has insane amounts of AP and a 5% increase from Zhonya's, and it is true that it doesn't offer the old Z Ring active but it will still hurt like a ___. [/quote] Yea, I can definitely understand this. Especially among newbie players and low ELO players who never used the old Zhonya's active anyway. A lot of players will be crying OP about how Banksy's is cheaper and gives quite a bit more AP than the old Zhonya's Ring.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]Bleh, 155 AP and a 30% increase. Waay too much. To be honest I'm ecstatic for the hourglass, because now an abyssal scepter and a zhonya's hourglass gives an AP carry all the defense you'd need without having to pick up any defense items.[/quote]

[quote=Diego]I totally agree on behalf of the low ELO part because I myself was in that situation. When I first saw someone turn golden on my screen I thought it was hacks because I couldn't target him. I have a gut feeling that they will nerf this item because we all know how people love to complain on the General Discussion forums on the LoL website. Instead this time it'll be the melee/ranged DPS crying. (Just like mages sniffled when they didn't get a kill due to hexdrinker.)[/quote]

[quote=Visfarix][quote=Trojan995] To be honest I'm ecstatic for the hourglass, because now an abyssal scepter and a zhonya's hourglass gives an AP carry all the defense you'd need without having to pick up any defense items. [/quote] Yea new Zhonya's looks awesome. Since it's now a total survivability item with a lot of AP, I can totally imagine it being used by AP based tanks as well as casters with AoE non-channel ults. It'll be pretty interesting to see champs like Amumu bandage toss->ulti->zhonya's or Nasus spirit fire->run into middle of enemies->ulti->zhonya's[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Visfarix] [quote=Trojan995] To be honest I'm ecstatic for the hourglass, because now an abyssal scepter and a zhonya's hourglass gives an AP carry all the defense you'd need without having to pick up any defense items. [/quote] Yea new Zhonya's looks awesome. Since it's now a total survivability item with a lot of AP, I can totally imagine it being used by AP based tanks as well as casters with AoE non-channel ults. It'll be pretty interesting to see champs like Amumu bandage toss->ulti->zhonya's or Nasus spirit fire->run into middle of enemies->ulti->zhonya's [/quote] I don't see Nasus going AP anytime soon but it's still pretty widely used already on most characters that can utilize the active anyways.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]I don't see why people are so disappointed in the boots. I think they'll have many uses, more than just predicted. I already plan to use them on Zilean, because Soul Shroud + Boots + Runes/Masteries can easily max out CDR early on in the game. The #1 Blitzcrank guide focuses on max CDR, and it might be prudent to replace Shurelya's Reverie with the CDR boots so as to get max CDR quickly, cheaply, and without unneeded stats (that depends on if Shurelya's Reverie is used solely for the CDR in this build, but who knows.)[/quote]

[quote=Diego]They are totally worth it IMO with 9/0/21 masteries and flat CDR or per lvl CDR blues. CDR is universal in the sense that it too can make you stronger with the added use of abilities.[/quote]