Serious talk about the *best* junglers.

[quote=drunken0elf]K we all know that some characters suck at jungling, others can pretty much only do that. But I,d like to know about the odd ones. Let me get started. The top tier junglers are pretty much, Udyr, Lee sin, Skarner, mundo., maybe olaf? Now honestly this is up to debate. Someone good with shaco will argue that shaco is in the top tier, but for him. Now get my point? I want some discussion on odd junglers that actually work out very well. I started jungling quite a bit with [b]Tryndamere[/b]. Tryndamere being easily countered in lane, I find he suites much better in the jungle. Can farm his money, can farm champs in ganks, can farm the opposing jungler while being most of the time safe and sound because of his easy ability to get out of sticky situations in the jungle. Another great jungler I jungled with is [b]Volibear[/b]. Voli I find is just like Tryndamere, what he lacks in the lane he gains in the jungle. He has amazing ganks, and I build him tanky so he basically becomes the teamstank while carrying the team when the need arrises. So what are your odd ones junglers that we almost never see? I started seeing a big wave of Blitz jungle, is this a new trend or something?[/quote]

[quote=crossfire]I like to jungle [[taric]]... and have my whole team yell at me for trolling and eat there words after the games over.[/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim]I think Blitz is a bit too slow and vulnerable in the jungle. [[Nautilus]] has similar ganks and CC but is just better overall (for the jungling role). Surprised you didn't mention [[Noctourne]]. He isn't an "odd" jungle, but he is a freaking beast at it either way. I've been wanting to try [[Rumble]] in the jungle. Just haven't had the extra IP laying around to buy him.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Trynda is a bit too item reliant to get enough gold in the jungle to become beast. He is a selected pick top and does well vs a few. I've always done well with him against Yorick. Alistar is pretty much high tier jungler now again. So sad I can't mention my favourite Trundle since he is a troll and this was a serious thread.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The actual top picked junglers are (in this order): [[nocturne]],[[dr. mundo]],[[nautilus]],[[maokai]],[[lee sin]],[[shen]],[[udyr]],[[alistar]].[/quote]

[quote=holkos][quote=Klausenheim] I think Blitz is a bit too slow and vulnerable in the jungle. [[Nautilus]] has similar ganks and CC but is just better overall (for the jungling role). Surprised you didn't mention [[Noctourne]]. He isn't an "odd" jungle, but he is a freaking beast at it either way. I've been wanting to try [[Rumble]] in the jungle. Just haven't had the extra IP laying around to buy him. [/quote] Try PBE i would say. On-topic: cho'gath is a very underrated jungler in my eyes, his speed/surviabilty is godlike and the only hard thing is to land [[rupture]] in a gank.[/quote]

[quote=drunken0elf]Yeah, I forgot about Nocturne. I've heard good things about trundle, but I've never tried him nor never seen a good one jungling. Is trundle very hard to play?[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Trundle is quite easy jungler, but his pillar can make or break teamfights. He is also a great counter to Yorick top[/quote]

[quote=koksei][quote=Crows foot] Trundle is quite easy jungler, but his pillar can make or break teamfights. He is also a great counter to Yorick top [/quote] And udyr top. Regarding good junglers: Noc, Naut, Mundo, Lee, Maokai Probably the "best" junglers[/quote]

[quote=Vaan99]Nautilus and Maokai are, by my personal opinion, 2 best junglers at the moment. They are quite fast, only weak to counterjungling in first clear until they get level 3, but then they can actually duel with invaders. Their speed improves with levels, won't stay slow in late game as lee sin. Both of them have exceptional transition to mid-late game, both can carry oracle if they get kill or two (or few assissts) without any worrying about dying. They are quite build independant, can be built like supports or you can even try something else (will be weaker but still they will be useful). Maokai ganks are legendary pre 6, almost guaranted kill (ignore bug with his w), nautilus has a bit weaker ganking pre 6, he can be juked and messed up by walking next to minions. Post 6 nautilus has better ganks, but maokai is still maokai. Their teamfights are also better than with other junglers, they can protect their own carry or go for enemy carry. Currently, I have about 70% win ration as nautilus and over 60% win ratio as maokai and i'm sitting on 1700 elo. This doesn't mean other junglers are bad, but these 2 are just plain OP. Nocturne is well rounded, fast clearing, carry jungler, but he has problem with teamfights, if you jump on enemy carry you will get melted in 2 seconds. And he can't be built straight dps or he will become useless. Malphite is excellent jungle pick if enemies have ad jungler, like nocturne, lee sin, shyvana, pantheon. He is mostly picked for jungle as a counter, but he can be effectively played on mid or top anytime. Udyr is strong duelist and has fast clear times, but he has trouble ganking with so many gap closers on so many champions. You can always go with alistar/pantheon and make enemy team cry, camp 2 lanes and make yourself/your team fed.[/quote]