Nocturne vs. Fiora

[quote=big000]Hello, i'm kinda noob here, but i'm asking for an opinion. I'm good with WarWick and Wukong. I already have their runes and now i want to buy another champ. The runes from wukong are good for fiora and for nocturne, besides the quint, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that i have been junglling with WW and i liked it. So i searched for a good jungler and i found nocturne. but i like a good meelee champ too like wukong and WW that give tons of damage and then i choose fiora too... So, i'm here to ask what champ is better for either lane or jungle. Tks, Big.[/quote]

[quote=iownedya][[UDYR]] AND [[LEE SING]]A Those two are best in lane AND jungle. If you want versatile champions, choose them. If you want just jungle, [[Shyvana]] and [[Dr. Mundo]] are the fastest. The best top are currently [[Udyr]] and [[Riven]]. Maybe [[Pantheon]], but he is hard to master. [[Lee Sin]] is a fast jungler and has a lot of sustain, so he won't need to go b as much. [[Nocturne]] is a pretty fast jungler and good ganker, but he needs lvl 6 to get past wards. [[Fiora]] is a decent jungler and has very little sustainability, so she is better top. She does hve a lot of damage, but long cooldowns. [[Warwick]] is a decent jungler with great sustain, but his ganks usually rely on low health champions or lvl 6. [[Wukong]] CAN jungle. He is decent, but with little sustain, he is bad. [[Wukong]] is usually an agressive top. [[Warwick]] can top. He is great at top and has massive sustain. He can cs very well and move quickly. Teamfights: [[Nocturne]] is OK at team fights. He does not have much AoE, but he is great for catching the squishy AD carries. [[Fiora]] is GREAT at teamfights. She can catch squishies, survive, and kill a lot of people with [[Blade Waltz]]. [[Udyr]] is OK at teamfights. He stuns many people, disrupts people, and is a meat shield for the team. [[Lee sin]] is GOOD at teamfights. He can ruin an AD heavy team and disrupt or kill the carry(s) with his ultimate. [[Shyvana]] is OK at teamfights. She can leap to enemy carries and shut them down. She has relatively long cooldowns and good damage. [[Dr. mundo]] is OK at teamfights. He has a permaslow and massive movement/sustain. He is the tank of your team. [[Riven]] is GOOD at teamfights. She has disruption spells and great damage. She has decent coolsdowns. [[Warwick]] is OK at teamfights. He ults in to kill the carry, gives the team a buff, but he doesn't do much if his ult is interrupted. [[Wukong]] is GREAT at teamfights. His ult disrupts entire teams. He can make enemies blow their spells on a decoy. He has good damage. Choose wisely... I think I deserve a +rep for that >.> 10 minutes of typing away on this iPad.... Lol[/quote]

[quote=SkullzX]Wanna know how you know if someone owns an apple product? THEY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT! TROLOLOLOL so true though! Nice list though...also noct would be GOOD in team fights YOU CANT SEE SHIT NOW=HOW I FOCUS![/quote]

[quote=big000]yes, i'm totally a top laner and lately trying to jungle (allways with WW, and i'm not that bad :D) but nice list over there, i'll go to think a bit now.. ty[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Fiora is a situational top laner that can do well in the right matchup. She's quite easily countered though. Nocturne is currently one of the strongest junglers in the game. Fiora pretty much sucks at jungling and Nocturne isn't a great top laner. They shouldn't be competing for the same role. Honestly, you should probably just figure out if you want a jungler or a top laner, then pick the one that fits. Nocturne is overall a stronger pick though because he's less situational. I'd go for him, personally.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=SkullzX] Wanna know how you know if someone owns an apple product? THEY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT! [/quote] Tons of rep for truth. --//-- If you like to bring damage to the game, you can go Nocturne. However, sometimes the team needs junglers who can tank lategame, so don't rule out [[Nautilus]], [[Maokai]], [[Amumu]] and [[Malphite]][/quote]

[quote=Valkenhyn]to add on to what FalseoGod said, Nunu has become another notable tanky jungle and Skarner (a personal favorite of mine) is an extremely balance jungler[/quote]

[quote=big000]i tested udyr already and i have to play more with it, i got death many times but lots of assists too... maybe the combo's not working in team fights... i have to practice more :) but i think for now, i'll just buy AS and AD runes.[/quote]

[quote=Senac]I'm playing jungle Udyr with AS reds, Armor yellows, MR/lvl blues and MS quints. That's what works for me. Udyr really needs to get into the lane asap to get the stun. Then you can proceed to destroy everything. For lane Udyr I'd go AD reds and AD quints. Because Tiger is badass.[/quote]