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Consistency with Fizz

Creator: Buranri August 23, 2012 10:41pm
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What is this "in house" you speak of?
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Games organized through MOBAFire. The forum is 2 or 3 down from this one, actually.

On a related topic to this thread - what's a good mid alternative to try, instead of Fizz?
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Well thats kind of a broad question...

Great mids include (but are not organized by awesomeness):
Veigar
Zyra
Orianna
Ryze
Cassiopeia
Brand
Twisted Fate
Kassadin
Morgana
Talon
Katarina
Galio
Cho'Gath
Gragas
Karthus
Swain

Great champs that play similarly to fizz are:

Kassadin
Talon
Katarina

But the issue is, if they play similarly to fizz, they have the same counters. you want to pick up mids that are as far and away from each other as possible, so you can counter anybody. A nice roster for counter-picking include:

Ryze
Fizz
Morgana
Orianna
Vladimir
Brand
Zyra

But honestly this bracket is crazy flexible. Every champ counters specific other champs, and those champs counter other champs, blah blah blah et cetera. Be good with about 5 or 6 of them and ur set, as long as they play differently from each other.
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Hahaha maybe a little broad. I was referring to mids that have similar strengths as Fizz - good gap closer, good escape. Most mids will have good burst, no?

I think I'm going to focus a bit more on expanding my roster of junglers and tops. I'm pretty good with Udyr jungle, and with Riven top (although it's usually 2v1). I'm probably going to practice a bit with Mundo jungling, and maybe buy Yorick for top as well. Mid will probably come after that... I liked Zyra when I tried her during a free week, so maybe I'll grab her. Vladimir is a pain in the *** too, so perhaps him. Thanks for answering my endless questions :p
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lol well i answered your "like fizz" question too XD

And NP, i am a mentor in game, and i get alot of people from this site that contact me on client side and i train them, so im used to answering endless questions.
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Trololol, Yorick. So much harass. I ended up buying him, he's pretty fun. I don't really get to solo with him, but still.
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Yorick is one of the most powerful solo tops. Get good with him now and reap the benefits later on when people get smart and start using the meta.

Good build for Yorick to get you started:

Manamune
Trinity Force
Warmog's Armor
Mercury's Treads
Force of Nature
Frozen Heart

He isnt expected to do crazy amounts of damage, he is pretty much in the fight to be a meat shield, deal OK damage, provide utility with his slowing zombies, and ult the AP or AD carry to clone them do deal lots of damage in early fights and let that person continue to **** on people after he dies, and continue to turn focus from the rest of the still living champs.

Avoid the temptation to build AP. AD hybrid-ish tank is the best way.
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I've actually been building him mostly AD. Here's the build I finished with last game.

Manamune
Frozen Heart
Trinity Force
Ninja Tabi (they had tons of AD)
Last Whisper
Frozen Mallet (just because it was late game, I needed more HP, and I had way too much gold)

I ended 37/10/16, so it went pretty well. I was doing some pretty crazy amounts of damage, so that was fun too. I'm honestly not entirely sure what to do with my ult. Like it helped a lot in situations where I almost killed them, so I popped it, revived, and got a double kill. I don't think I'm using it to it's full capability though.
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OK, yorick ult can be used in two main different ways.

FIRST is when you are by yourself, having a duel with another champion. In this instance, you can think of it kind of like a Shaco Hallucinate, in that you ult yourself, and a shadow you pops up to beat your opponent over the head with his shovel. Your zombies will slow your opponent if he tries to run, and u can use shadow you to chase the guy down and finish off kills and in general make you a better duelist for solo lane fights.

SECOND is during teamfights. In this instance, NEVER ult yourself. EVER. unless (for some obscene reason) you are carrying your team. But in most instances, you will ult one of two people: The ADC or the APC. If your ADC has lots of good basic attack damage, and you have a really good initiation, ult him right at the start of the fight, so you can essentially fight 5v6. Even after he gets killed (good chance), then he pops back and the timer on the ghost gets refreshed, and he gets another 7 seconds to decimate the opponents. BUT. If your ADC is a bit underfed, yet your APC is fed to ****, go into a teamfight and keep an eye on them. When the enemy starts to focus the APC, THEN use your ult. Because, unless they are someone super survivable like Swain, once they get focused and cought with some CC, they WILL die. THen they come back and blast away with a full mana bar and clear cooldown timers. Its important NOT to ult your APC early on, because the ghost will only use basic attacks. Not at all useful, and it only puts this temporary body in harm's way for AOE attacks, making it weaker when your teammate's soul sets up new house.

If you want to keep it simple, though, to start with you can just keep an eye on APC and ADC in teamfights and ult the first one to get focused down. Just to make it easy until you can begin to see patterns and recognize threat levels and such.
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