Garen, the underrated tanky assasin?

[quote=NicknameMy]Lately I am playing [[garen]] again and wow, his laning phase is so great atm. Outzoning [[irelia]]'s from farm, beating [[rengar]]'s in a one vs one and pushing [[riven]] out of the lane. And lategame, with just [[frozen mallet]] and [[guardian angel]], be nearly unkillable with [[courage]] while destroying the enemy ad-carry quickly. Why he isn't picked at all if he has so much potential? He also doesn't need [[mercury's treads]] at all, he has 6 seconds 30% cc-reduction with [[courage]]. This means he can easily use [[ionian boots of lucidity]] for 40% cdr with [[youmuu's ghostblade]] + masteries. [embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4uiTQsRJg][/quote]

[quote=Embracing]no.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Garen]] is pretty versitile now. But he isn't an assassin. He's design to chase a carry out of a fight and kill them or make it a 4v5 by them leaving.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well [[flash]]+[[decisive strike]]+[[judgment]]+[[ignite]]+[[demacian justice]] and every carry is dead.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Assuming he makes it to them. If he's doing enough damage to gib a carry he's probably squishy as hell. It's not like [[Olaf]] who bee-lines for the carry, literally cannot be stopped, cannot be killed easily and gibs the carry with full HP/Armor gear.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=NicknameMy] Well [[flash]]+[[decisive strike]]+[[judgment]]+[[ignite]]+[[demacian justice]] and every carry is dead. [/quote] *gets Exhausted/CC'd by any competent support player, proceeds to get kited*[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, as said, [[garen]] just needs [[frozen mallet]] and [[guardian angel]] to be really tanky. [[courage]] does the rest and reduces also cc. And [[garen]] is no way an initator. Of course you do this after the tank initated and you know that you can do it.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Olaf]] still does it better. [[Irelia]] does too, actually. [[Garen]] is meant to push people out of fights, not assassinate them.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]That is why elementz talked about tanky assasin [[garen]], right?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Does elementz have anything to do with how a champion is designed or how [[Olaf]] still outclasses him at the role? :/[/quote]