I just noticed the runes. greater seal of replenishment seems an odd choice on Singed, he doesn't strike me as a very mana hungry champ. And what they said - flat armor marks/seals are mandatory for solo top.

This isn't viable. lets just move on. Did venelin122 make an account just to upvote? rofl.

its great i try it its work :D tenx man

I am not "too much" on numbers, i just expect a basic (very basic) knowledge of items and game mechanics.

Armor seals are the most optimal seals for offtanks, and MRes (flat or /level) are the most optimal glyphs.

Okay dude, you are obviously too much on numbers. I am talking approximately here. Now i see that I really must change the flat mana to something else but it just wont be armor... Maybe magic resist but i'm still not sure... What will you offer? Forget about armor though...

Wait
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You tell me that you actually start with Blue Crystal vs Garen?

anyways



That is wrong on so many levels.

How do mana regen and flat mana runes give you more damage?

Swiftness gives 90 flat MS. Merc treads (and generally Enhanced Movement 2) give 70. The difference is 20 MS, not 40. And tenacity is a stat that is INVALUABLE. Mercs are the best item in the game (yes, i am exaggerating).

You say you take your second RoA at 20-23 minutes in. How is that different from what i said? RoA takes 10 minuts to completely charge up...

Please at least look up basic information about the stuff you write.

First Let me say that this build is offering many different possibilities for items each one about different occasion. The last 5 items are YOUR CHOICE. So you can have like for example Boots of Swiftness, Rod of Ages, Rod of Ages, Force of Nature, Rabadon's Deathcap and Thornmail Which makes like 200 Armor and 100 magic resist. CONSIDERABLE TANK! And YES, you are right that there are some miscalculations in the whole thing. I am fixin this right away, as I already replied to Anastasios.

Okay smart guy. Let's Calculate huh? First off - Base health - 1842. Secondly, Base mana - 1025. Thirdly, Base health regeneration - 17/5 secs.
Now lets start noting down the additional stats you add to him. 9 runes x 11,5 mana = 103,5. Rod of ages = 630 health, 725 mana and 80 AP. x 2 = 1260 health, 1450 mana, 160 AP. So at this point you have 1842+1260=3102 health, 1025+1450+103,5=2578,5 mana, 160 AP. Now when you add 25 health with every 100 mana = 25x25= 625 health. 3102 + 625 = 3725 health. Now you have 3x1,5% bonus health runes which makes 3725 + 4,5%x3725 = 3725 + 275 = 4000 health. Now, add 1% of your maximum mana as health regen = 1/100*2578,5=26 health regen / 5 secs. Now let's add Force of Nature - 1,75% x 4000 = 70 health regen / 5 secs. Add 40 more = 110 health regen / 5 secs. Now lets combine this and your mastery = 136 health regen, and when you add his basic stats = 153 health regen. And this is without your final item, so it would probably get to up to 200 health regen in the different occasions, which practically makes you right. I am fixing this mistake right away.

Now lets talk about the chalice of harmony. Yes, it is a great item for early game because you can practically use your poison trail all the time so I wont change that.

Now about the runes. I prefer to deal 10% more damage than to take 1% less dmg :) So i think armor/mag resist runes are useless. so i wont change that either.

Now let's talk about RoA and Swiftness boots. I wont change that too, because I get my second rod at the state of 20 or 23 minute of the game, so you are wrong. Boots of swiftness are ESSENTIAL. Merc treads dont give enough tenacity so it's better to have one quicksilver than to give up on 40 ms above...

Now about the first item. NO, boots are the first item only if your oponent can do you harm from distance without even exposing themselves (skillshot heroes). But if your opponent is something like wukong or garen, nope you DO NOT NEED BOOTS. You still ARE faster than them even if they have boots and you don't. Maybe I have to mention your ult and ghost? And what if they are slowed? Yes, the lack of early game boots is covered by your W spell! However you can't dodge a missile by slowing the opponent so if he is a skillshot hero, get boots.

I hope you will change your mind if you have voted down on me.

"Singed is the BEST off tank ap hero in this game. It's a fact that you can get him to 600+ ability power and in the same time have 150+ armor & mag resist, 4k + health amd +550 health regeneration/ 5 secs. Allright isn't that one hell of a tank? Wow, wait a minute, he just did more damage than your team's carry. How is that even possible?"

Let's take a look at your final stats for the build you have.
0 AP and even with both RoA and Rabadon's you only have 240 plus your 30% so around 300.
Going with the RoA and Rabadon's leaves you with approx. 70 armor, since with boots and those 3 items you cant afford all the items in defense.
About 110 magic resist with FoN and Guardian
About 2500 mana and around 3000 health
Health regen is at around 50/5

Everything you said is incorrect. Please fix your build and your guide, because making false claims isnt doing anyone any favors

hi there, you have a pretty decent guide about Singed FTW so you earned my plus +1...rep me pls

"When picking the first item for Singed (forgot to mention earlier that you should play TOP lane) you will most likely want to see what the enemy top laner would be. If it is a skillshot hero, take Boots of Speed to juke his missiles, else take Sapphire's Crystal for more survivability, farming capabilities."


NO.
Boots is the number 1, and ONLY starting item option for singed. You need all the movement speed you can get.

Chalice is 100% useless. You need your Catalyst ASAP.

Double RoA will need over 30 minutes to be fully stacked, and it gives you neither 1k mana nor 100 AP. It gives 725 and 80 when fully stacked.
Boots of Swiftness are a pretty "meh" item. Merc treads work better with your ult, and you yourself mention that CC is a huge threat for Singed.

Runes are very suboptimal too. Since you wanna be tanky, you go armor seals, mres glyphs, and MS QUINTS.
You constantly mention that you must be faster than your enemies, but i don't see that reflecting in your choices.

Why would you ever take w in level 2? Even if you jungler ganks at 2, it's still better to take poison.

Also, yoru statement that you will have over 400 HP/5 is complete ********. It's really hard to get over 150. With 4k HP and 4k Mana, you get 70 HP/5 from FoN and 40 from Strength of Spirit. Please do even a minimal amount of math before saying stuff like that.

Generally, a really abhorrent guide with many flaws, more than i mentioned here.