Shyvana help...

[quote=XDevastatorX]Hi guys :D Just new here. So um i just bought Shyvana played a couple of games and well i sucked at them. I went to other guides to check out how to player her, got some useful tips but you know. they dont always go exactly as planned. Could you guys give me some more playing tips on shyvana? tnx guys![/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]Yes. The shyvana guides on this website are shit. The higher rated they are, the worse they get. Jungle shyvana is the only viable way to play shyvana IMO. exhaust smite 8 attack speed marks, 1 armor pen mark armor seals flat MR glyphs armor pen quints I like 0/21/9 for the 3% MS in defense and the 2% MS in utility, but you can almost go w/e masteries you want. on purple side, start wraiths red and gank top. on blue side, if they have a jungler that starts blue, invade their red with your team, steal it and wraiths, and then gank top. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them here.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I like 21/9/0 and 9/21/0 personally I'm not so sure about runes but I like to go 15 ad(ad marks + quints) Personally I like to smiteless blue steal red gank top if blue and wraiths gank top if red top lany shyv works but you really cant punish the enemy for any small mistakes..[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Top lane shyv is pretty good if you know how to do it :V 9/21/0 probably the best masteries to go. imho for runes armor pen sucks, flat AD/AS/MS is a lot better[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]not for jungle shyvana. jungle creeps have 12 armor. the buffs, i believe.[/quote]

[quote=Morr33d]ASpeed marks+AD quints, 9/21/0 while taking point into improved exhaust, +3 AD and magic penetration. Your W scales of AD and deals magic damage, afterwards you want to max E which deals magic damage as well and so does your ulti. Your clear is retarded fast just with attackspeed to lower your Q CD and AD which makes your W a hot knife cutting thru butter. No need for ArPen imo.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Throat, you max [[burnout]] first. [[burnout]] does magic damage. [[burnout]] also scales with flat AD. Jungle creeps have zero MR. Therefore flat AD > armor pen for clearing. It's also better for ganking when E + [[exhaust]] already lowers their armor by like 15.[/quote]

[quote=z00k]What do u guys skill second ? E does more magic damage than her q i think, plus the additional armorpen is nice to have.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=tehAsian] Throat, you max [[burnout]] first. [[burnout]] does magic damage. [[burnout]] also scales with flat AD. Jungle creeps have zero MR. Therefore flat AD > armor pen for clearing. It's also better for ganking when E + [[exhaust]] already lowers their armor by like 15. [/quote] Burnout may scale with AD but you need 5 bonus AD to have it do one more damage. Because it's not going to be up, and hitting creeps, 24/7 ArP is better for more overall DPS.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=tehAsian] It's also better for ganking when E + [[exhaust]] already lowers their armor by like 15. [/quote] Flat armor pen works quite well with reduction, actually. It's %pen that falls off when you have reduction applied. AS/Arpen is the best rune setup imo. Gives the most champion damage and really good clear speed.[/quote]