Hmmm, interesting idea.
I will toss it around a bit with Matt and see what we come up with.
Our philosophy from day one has been minimal moderation. We believe that you can't force a community to be anything other than what it is. This one has some fangs but its got way more good qualities to drown that out. Lots of good people mean the community experience will be relatively good as well.
Its also been my experience that moderation breeds moderation. Its a self feeding machine, the more you moderate the more rules you need to stop people getting around the old rules and the more moderating you need to do. The more moderating you need to do the more arguments that take place. In the end it doesn't serve anyone any good and creates a whole pile of extra work and bad feelings.
So while we usually shy away from more moderation and look for other solutions I do like this suggestion for our existing level of moderation... we'll think about this one I'm sure
thanks for the suggestion
FlashJ
I will toss it around a bit with Matt and see what we come up with.
Our philosophy from day one has been minimal moderation. We believe that you can't force a community to be anything other than what it is. This one has some fangs but its got way more good qualities to drown that out. Lots of good people mean the community experience will be relatively good as well.
Its also been my experience that moderation breeds moderation. Its a self feeding machine, the more you moderate the more rules you need to stop people getting around the old rules and the more moderating you need to do. The more moderating you need to do the more arguments that take place. In the end it doesn't serve anyone any good and creates a whole pile of extra work and bad feelings.
So while we usually shy away from more moderation and look for other solutions I do like this suggestion for our existing level of moderation... we'll think about this one I'm sure
thanks for the suggestion
FlashJ
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Can't see why it wouldn't be good.
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We will be adding the ability for mods to completely remove a build, in order to prevent this kind of thing, it's just not in yet. We have the ability to ban users and IP addresses as well (admins only, mods can't do this), and we DO ban people now and then, we just don't make a lot of unnecessary fanfare about it.
If we get reports of someone being particularly abusive we will always look into it and if we feel it necessary we will ban them.
As Flash said we prefer not to turn this into a moderator sweatshop. Often times the extra attention is exactly what these people are looking for. When it gets out of hand we'll ban them, otherwise they tend to get bored pretty damn quick when they get ignored.
I also don't really like the idea of automating things like this. I'd rather review things personally on a case by case basis, when necessary. It's not like we're overrun by spam and trolls, so far things have been pretty good.
If we get reports of someone being particularly abusive we will always look into it and if we feel it necessary we will ban them.
As Flash said we prefer not to turn this into a moderator sweatshop. Often times the extra attention is exactly what these people are looking for. When it gets out of hand we'll ban them, otherwise they tend to get bored pretty damn quick when they get ignored.
I also don't really like the idea of automating things like this. I'd rather review things personally on a case by case basis, when necessary. It's not like we're overrun by spam and trolls, so far things have been pretty good.
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On every forum/wiki website I've been on, there's been a series of administrators/moderators that have the power to give warnings or infractions to users. Smogon, for example, has a system with points, with minor warnings being one point and more major ones being, obviously, more points. When a user reaches a certain amount of points, he/she is banned until their points expire (usually within 2 weeks to a month of their assignment).
Maybe we don't need to go too far - MOBAFire is a nice community, from what I see, but the power to warn people about things they're doing wrong and infract/ban them for more serious issues seems essential in the near future, giving how popular MOBAFire is becoming. Warnings could be used for small things like 5000 character cheating (first time offense), spam, trolling, or posting threads without reading rules. Infractions would be for multiple offenses in any of the above, as well as other, more serious things.
I also suggest that this power be reserved to moderators and administrators only - the veteran base is quite large and I'm not sure whether giving them the power is such a great idea, to be perfectly honest. Obviously this will be optimal whenever a second or third Moderator is promoted.
TL;DR -
*Warnings are minor, infractions are major
*Temporary bans after too many warnings/infractions
*Permanent IP bans after repeated violations
Can we put some serious thought into this? Thanks.