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2000 toplaner 800+ games as Irelia AMA

Creator: bitpik November 4, 2012 7:43pm
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Thoughts on as reds zerkers wits ionic triforce ga


Very squishy. I dont combine AS reds+Zerkers+Wits+Ionic with Trinity force. because thats a huge amount of gold for just damage. This build will deal a ton of damage, but i would never build it in a tryhard game.

On-hit items dont have that much synergy with trinity force. Trinity force is used for burst and if you succeed with bursting a carry down with Triforce you wont even use the attack speed or lightning from Ionic spark(maybe the attack speed, but the on-hit? meh). You simply cant waste 8000 gold on all the 3 dps especially since triforce is a midgame item.

If i go for wit's+ionic i go for Frozen mallet instead to be tanky and to more easily stick onto tanks/bruisers. I dont build Wits+ionic spark vs squishy teams cause whats the point? Its far better to burst squishies with triforce instead of going for full on-hit+Frozen mallet against them. Ionic+Wits build is designed to ignore armor and if the enemy has 40 armor and 40 magic resist you will deal more damage with triforce than with these.
You need Phage on almost every build for Irelia so skipping frozen mallet with this build is not a good choice, people will be able to run from you.


Zerkers doesnt work vs toplaners that can kill you, but they are great if you dont need any other boots against someone like Cho'Gath or Shen.
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Hey, I'm currently a gold player and looking to reach plat in season 3. Have mained support and AD so far, but recently decided to main top in season 3 with Lee Sin and Irelia being my two best picks right now. Obviously my Irelia is not at a plat level though, so any way you can help me out? Not sure what you had in mind with 'mentoring', but I'm up for anything (being it simply talking - preferably on Skype -, sending my replays for you to look at, playing normals together or even playing 1v1 customs). Thanks :)

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thoughts on renekton as a counter mid pick against mages who have a semi weak early game?


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Wayne3100 wrote:

Hey, I'm currently a gold player and looking to reach plat in season 3. Have mained support and AD so far, but recently decided to main top in season 3 with Lee Sin and Irelia being my two best picks right now. Obviously my Irelia is not at a plat level though, so any way you can help me out? Not sure what you had in mind with 'mentoring', but I'm up for anything (being it simply talking - preferably on Skype -, sending my replays for you to look at, playing normals together or even playing 1v1 customs). Thanks :)


Sure, will start mentoring people tommorow. There are already 2 people in line though but hopefully i can help you out before sunday.
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Nighthawk wrote:

thoughts on renekton as a counter mid pick against mages who have a semi weak early game?


It can beat a few melee champions like Diana and maybe Gragas but overall i think the midlane is too short for renekton. If the enemy team plays it smart they will probably just stay safe until they gank you, if you doublejump onto them you have used your only escape and it has a long cooldown. Without rage Renekton cant kill a descent opponent, but he needs to push to get it. If you push lane they will just be able to freefarm under turret, i think Lee Sin is better because of this. He is pretty fun though so you can try him out yourself and see what you think.

I like Darius more vs melee midlaners since level 6+ he instakills them if he lands a grab without putting himself at huge risk. Irelia also pretty strong but only with damage focused build.
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