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Found this some time ago and now my favorite role is support with Sona and Qin-Skin :D
Thanks!
Looong quote but here we go:
First of all: The problem is that there is and should be no build for
The song is there because people need it. You however should not have read this part because you don't need to do it. I warned about it in the chapter between and it is useful indeed if you are a less experienced player. Since you already know the basic stuff you got no eye for what's new. I see so much
Items: There are no
You and I cannot and should not judge over my capabilities of supporting with
Final word: This is a guide. Not an item build.
So either I present a full build that doesn't represent the idea of adapting to the game at all or I generate a huge situational items list that no normal player would look at. - Wait ,what? You make builds that no normal person would ever do? Point? O.o
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I totally agree with everything you said here. The tabs are really confusing and there is a bit too much text about a single stuff. How do you think someone can apply 90 tips for 1 spell during a teamfight ( example )?
I also don't like your tab "Your Song Book - Tactics and builds against individual champions". Like I said before, having 20+ tips for each champion will confuse a player during a fight. Besides, if you have any skill at all, you should already know by yourself what spells they have and what actions you have to do against them ( except if you're not level 5 - even then, so much tips are also too much for them ).
It would look like this ( example: vs Ahri ):
Don't waste Crescendo for , oh wait what? No! As soon as team fights begin purchase an Oracle's Elixir. Akali is not easy ... This ain't Akali! Aegis of the Legion counters Cursed Touch...You can body block Spirit Rush as ... Mana Barrier is a very strong passive ....Due to his magic AOE abilities and on hit effects, it is .. Missile Barrage has a small AOE ...You can bait Darius really well... OMG WHERE IS THE TIP I NEED?
- You need to give the most important tips ( 3 - 5 of them max ) so that someone who is not so good at "scanning" an opponent can easily make a plan before making a move.
And really,
___________________________________________________________
Sure, Soraka can heal more. But can she heal every 4 seconds multiple targets? - She is not a viable support I don't know why you even mentioned her.
Sure, Leona got more CC. But can she do anything else? Can she make people dance? - She can do a lot. You can't escape from her. -No, but she can make them burn in solar flare.
Sure, Taric provides more armor. But can he speed up and stun entire teams? -
In my opinion, I don't think you're even a good Sona. You just wrote bunch of random stuff that came out of nowhere. Good Sona doesn't need 700 tips for every champion to know what to do. Not to mention your item build.
Not sure if this is true, but there are so many trolls on Mobafire so I don't see any reason why to not trust you.
Best regards,
Your Nemo.
Looong quote but here we go:
First of all: The problem is that there is and should be no build for
The song is there because people need it. You however should not have read this part because you don't need to do it. I warned about it in the chapter between and it is useful indeed if you are a less experienced player. Since you already know the basic stuff you got no eye for what's new. I see so much
Items: There are no
You and I cannot and should not judge over my capabilities of supporting with
Final word: This is a guide. Not an item build.
Well i missed another item and order and other items :s.
Excuse me? That post makes no sense to me at all.
Getting downvotes sucks...
Edit: 10 different builds with walls and walls of text with less than 20 tabs to find your way around this guide, and the tabs are horrible. I am sure there is lots of good information in here but it is so disorganized with the tabs reading "Every music has it's price..." which is cute but once again fails to help people navigate your guide; infact the only way to even know what you were meaning when you wrote that would be to go there and read it- more confusion no order. There is only one way to read your guide and that is from start to finish and even that seems out of order.
I totally agree with everything you said here. The tabs are really confusing and there is a bit too much text about a single stuff. How do you think someone can apply 90 tips for 1 spell during a teamfight ( example )?
I also don't like your tab "Your Song Book - Tactics and builds against individual champions". Like I said before, having 20+ tips for each champion will confuse a player during a fight. Besides, if you have any skill at all, you should already know by yourself what spells they have and what actions you have to do against them ( except if you're not level 5 - even then, so much tips are also too much for them ).
It would look like this ( example: vs Ahri ):
Don't waste Crescendo for , oh wait what? No! As soon as team fights begin purchase an Oracle's Elixir. Akali is not easy ... This ain't Akali! Aegis of the Legion counters Cursed Touch...You can body block Spirit Rush as ... Mana Barrier is a very strong passive ....Due to his magic AOE abilities and on hit effects, it is .. Missile Barrage has a small AOE ...You can bait Darius really well... OMG WHERE IS THE TIP I NEED?
- You need to give the most important tips ( 3 - 5 of them max ) so that someone who is not so good at "scanning" an opponent can easily make a plan before making a move.
And really,
___________________________________________________________
Sure, Soraka can heal more. But can she heal every 4 seconds multiple targets? - She is not a viable support I don't know why you even mentioned her.
Sure, Leona got more CC. But can she do anything else? Can she make people dance? - She can do a lot. You can't escape from her. -No, but she can make them burn in solar flare.
Sure, Taric provides more armor. But can he speed up and stun entire teams? -
In my opinion, I don't think you're even a good Sona. You just wrote bunch of random stuff that came out of nowhere. Good Sona doesn't need 700 tips for every champion to know what to do. Not to mention your item build.
He randomly downvotes any other guide that competes against his own. When asked why he responds with;
"I don't like color in guides..."
This guy is a mad troll voter and his guide shouldn't be read by anyone. He edits his responses so it might read different when you read it.
I'll leave this here as a warning for all those looking at his guides and those who might think about voting themselves: don't support trolls.
Thanks,
Ssenkrad II
Not sure if this is true, but there are so many trolls on Mobafire so I don't see any reason why to not trust you.
Best regards,
Your Nemo.
He has an entire list of items that make no sense on supports and the only one you notice is Malady? oO
The advice in this guide is just bad.
A player who has never played Sona before would not benefit from being shown every item in the game with statements about how the items can all be useful on her. Truth be told, a guide-maker who wants to list a million items usually means that they don't really know wtf they're doing. ~.~
Build Executioner's Calling if Ahri builds Will of the Ancients = Wtf??? If that's the idea, supports should always build Executioner's Callings because AD carries always build Blood Thirsters...
And "if the AD carry doesn't have Flash..." Wtf? At what ELO does the AD carry not take Flash?
I got an entire list of items that are supportive. Do they make sense? In certain situations. Do you follow them blindly? Nope. Is this guide meant for newer players? Surely not, it's to huge to get all these advices in a way.
About listing items: I got the terrible feeling you want a strict build for
And last but not least: If you expect the guide to be meant for newer players then there is a very high chance that it might happen that the carry or anybody gamebreaking has no
Great, but i would kinda disagree with using
He has an entire list of items that make no sense on supports and the only one you notice is Malady? oO
The advice in this guide is just bad.
A player who has never played Sona before would not benefit from being shown every item in the game with statements about how the items can all be useful on her. Truth be told, a guide-maker who wants to list a million items usually means that they don't really know wtf they're doing. ~.~
Build Executioner's Calling if Ahri builds Will of the Ancients = Wtf??? If that's the idea, supports should always build Executioner's Callings because AD carries always build Blood Thirsters...
And "if the AD carry doesn't have Flash..." Wtf? At what ELO does the AD carry not take Flash?