I have, and other people have, enough said.

But this guide obviously says that those 3 items are ok to build, which they're not. Is 3k gold a good investment for a couple auto attacks? **** no. There is only 1 ori build. Boots, chal, rab, GA, void, and the game is over at that point. I don't think I've ever built a 6th item on ori.

If you read the guide, you notice I let you choose what items you want after Athene's Unholy Grail and give you a selection of items. I'm sure you can manage at least 1 AA, not necessarily in teamfights, which is when it is not safe to AA. Rylai's gives you health so you don't die all the time, it maybe even makes it safe so you can AA. With the slow on Rylai's and Command: Dissonance, you can AA them while they run away. If you want Zhonya's Hourglass or Void Staff, go ahead, this guide doesn't tell you not to.

Abyssal is **** on ori. you have enough MR from chalice, and you outrange the aura.
Lich bane is **** on ori. In a buttload of situations, it's not safe to AA.
Rylais is **** on ori. Gives you nothing. You don't need rylais to combo effectively.
Where's the zhonya's? where's the void staff?


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Thank you for the comment and advice.

I completely agree with you on the Quintessence of Spell Vamp, I do not know why I put them there.
I thought about the Quintessence of Mana and I agree with your opinion again.
The Greater Seal of Manas are there so people with 9 Greater Seal of Manas don't feel obliged to buy 9 Greater Seal of Mana Regenerations. for there isn't a huge difference, and I find buying runes very "annoying".

I have heard about Brute Force being more effective than Mental Force , and since you are right once again, I will edit the masteries section. I was going to do this but I forgot this when the time came and thought "MORE AP!!!".

Will of the Ancients. The part of the guide on this item was poorly done and rushed, my bad entirely.

Thank you again.

I never said spell vamp isn't viable on AoE casters, I said that it isn't viable in Orianna's case. Will of the Ancients is far less effective item than most other options, and the Spell Vamp Quints are far worse than AP or movement speed quints.

I'd like to note how viable it actually is. Since all her spells are AOE, think of how many people one spell might hit in a teamfight, not to mention minions. Her low cooldowns help her dish out a lot of damage. Naturally, Athene's combined with hextech revolver give a lot of sustain, I always get athene's first and next hextech revolver, next a rabadons. So please don't say that spellvamp is not viable on AOE casters, it's true it's only 33% for aoe spells, but u hit more targets so u can actually regen more from it.

On the other note, mind that Orianna does not have a small aa range at all. Use the ball to controll their position, if u play smart u can trick them into getting into your aa range so easily and a 2-3 aa's from orianna do a lot of damage.

No vote because you're guide in incomplete. Feel free to message me as soon as it is for a likely upvote based on where the guide is going so far. As for what I think could be improved:

Mental Force , similarly to last season, is still an extremely weak mastery. 3 whole mastery points for 3 additionally magic damage on her Q? Just 3. I'd suggesting taking both points in Brute Force since Orianna's auto-attack harass in lane is so strong and gives her even stronger last hitting ability.

Greater Quintessence of Spell Vamp, Greater Quintessence of Mana, and Greater Seal of Mana are all not viable on Orianna. If no one who knew how to play Orianna would use it, I wouldn't bother including it.

Will of the Ancients is not worth considering. Here's why. Spell Vamp only grants 33% of the given spell vamp value on AoE abilities. Since all of Orianna's abilities are AoE, she really only get 6.666% spell vamp. This is also why those spell vamp quints aren't viable.

Beyond that, I look forward to what else you are going to include, and good luck with your guide.