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Bad choice of glyphs, bad choice of starting items, double dorans sucks because it doesnt scale at all and is a huge gold sink unless you get tons of kills (not going to happen because of Vayne's weak early game, BT is infinitely better than PD first because you get more spike damage out of it, plus life steal, plus AS YOU STATED IN THE GUIDE Vayne scales better off with AD.
Guide information is okay, pretty standard, except for a bunch of text that feels like you just half-***ed it. Example 1:
" Vayne is a high damage, very mobile attack damage carry. Vayne specializes in bringing down her enemies VERY quickly (tank or not). Vayne is open to a wide range of supports (which I will go through later). Vayne can build differently, but I prefer to run The Bloodthirster over Infinity Edge as Vayne scales with attack damage."
Explain how you can kill a tank with Warmogs, Randuins, and Frozen Heart "very quickly." Explain how you can build an AD Carry any differently other than IE PD BT LW and boots. Explain how Vayne does not scale with Infinity Edge when it also gives attack damage (I know that's not what you meant, but through the wording it's implied).
Example 2: See your Pros and Cons. Also, slow attack speed? What the ****?
Contradictory skill sequence, Silver Bolts scales off attack speed, WHICH YOU ARE BUYING FIRST. Why aren't you maxing it first? Without AD, your Q will tickle, without AS your W takes longer to proc.
Situational items? Where's the Warmogs? Why Frozen Mallet instead? Where's the honorable mention for Sword of the Divine? And hold on...RUNAAN'S?!?! That **** is TERRIBLE on Vayne because you will NEVER get to proc her W, which is partially where her godly late game comes from. And here you say it's GOOD ON HER????
And BUY WRIGGLES IF YOU'RE BEHIND ON FARM? First of all, this isn't ****ing S2 (You shouldn't be getting it THEN EITHER), and second, if it was meant for S3 it puts you EVEN FURTHER BEHIND because it doesn't do **** for you. And you recommend Trinity Force............
@FAQ
IE vs BT, PD crit DOES NOT REPLACE IE crit chance, the first half is right, second half is wrong.
"How do I take kills from my jungler?"
You put, Condemn then into a wall. The Condemn that you're maxing last. The Condemn that has zero AD invested into it because you went PD first. Also, stealing kills isn't even the right ****ing solution, DONATE THE KILLS because I'd prefer a fed jungler who can get other lanes fed after ****ing up bot rather than invest all the gold in an ADC who's damage doesn't kick in until later. If you really care about KD so much, go back to CoD or learn to be less greedy and more of a team player.
"I keep missing my Condemn."
...ok, I'm not even going to comment on the ******ed **** you put here.
I love how all your matchups don't take into account of an enemy support, and you actually recommend fighting MF early on as Vayne. This makes me think that you're at the skill level where people take free harass, which is very very low. Fighting a MF as Vayne early on is ****ing suicide, period. And lol at Kog being dangerous. Also incomplete section.
Lol at Vayne being good at harassing. Good luck with that tiny range and horrible early game.
Lol at your team fight section. It pretty much shows how little you know about positioning and AD Carries in general.
Stop QQing about downvotes until you actually have a half decent guide that shows more than the bare minimum.
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Just re-reading this comment, you seem to be rather butthurt! The amount of offensive language and references to my level of play is by far above the standard.
Guide information is okay, pretty standard, except for a bunch of text that feels like you just half-***ed it. Example 1:
" Vayne is a high damage, very mobile attack damage carry. Vayne specializes in bringing down her enemies VERY quickly (tank or not). Vayne is open to a wide range of supports (which I will go through later). Vayne can build differently, but I prefer to run The Bloodthirster over Infinity Edge as Vayne scales with attack damage."
Explain how you can kill a tank with Warmogs, Randuins, and Frozen Heart "very quickly." Explain how you can build an AD Carry any differently other than IE PD BT LW and boots. Explain how Vayne does not scale with Infinity Edge when it also gives attack damage (I know that's not what you meant, but through the wording it's implied).
Example 2: See your Pros and Cons. Also, slow attack speed? What the ****?
Contradictory skill sequence, Silver Bolts scales off attack speed, WHICH YOU ARE BUYING FIRST. Why aren't you maxing it first? Without AD, your Q will tickle, without AS your W takes longer to proc.
Situational items? Where's the Warmogs? Why Frozen Mallet instead? Where's the honorable mention for Sword of the Divine? And hold on...RUNAAN'S?!?! That **** is TERRIBLE on Vayne because you will NEVER get to proc her W, which is partially where her godly late game comes from. And here you say it's GOOD ON HER????
And BUY WRIGGLES IF YOU'RE BEHIND ON FARM? First of all, this isn't ****ing S2 (You shouldn't be getting it THEN EITHER), and second, if it was meant for S3 it puts you EVEN FURTHER BEHIND because it doesn't do **** for you. And you recommend Trinity Force............
@FAQ
IE vs BT, PD crit DOES NOT REPLACE IE crit chance, the first half is right, second half is wrong.
"How do I take kills from my jungler?"
You put, Condemn then into a wall. The Condemn that you're maxing last. The Condemn that has zero AD invested into it because you went PD first. Also, stealing kills isn't even the right ****ing solution, DONATE THE KILLS because I'd prefer a fed jungler who can get other lanes fed after ****ing up bot rather than invest all the gold in an ADC who's damage doesn't kick in until later. If you really care about KD so much, go back to CoD or learn to be less greedy and more of a team player.
"I keep missing my Condemn."
...ok, I'm not even going to comment on the ******ed **** you put here.
I love how all your matchups don't take into account of an enemy support, and you actually recommend fighting MF early on as Vayne. This makes me think that you're at the skill level where people take free harass, which is very very low. Fighting a MF as Vayne early on is ****ing suicide, period. And lol at Kog being dangerous. Also incomplete section.
Lol at Vayne being good at harassing. Good luck with that tiny range and horrible early game.
Lol at your team fight section. It pretty much shows how little you know about positioning and AD Carries in general.
Stop QQing about downvotes until you actually have a half decent guide that shows more than the bare minimum.
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Starting with Phantom Dancer? What about the damage? I don't think it's worth it.
Thank you for thoroughly reading the guide! "Depending on how you are going, you may want to get
Heyho,
this is a pretty designed and good Vayne guide which could need some little improvements.
Btw you can center Videos with "["center"]["/center"]" (without the "), too.
First of all you should add Barierre as a possible Summoner Spell.
Zyra (and yeah mhm perhaps Galio) is missing as a support.
Is an early Phantom Dancer a good idea? IDK, I rarely play ADC but it seems too
early for me. I'd just buy a simple Zeal after I have a bit AD.
I'm not putting
Early
this is a pretty designed and good Vayne guide which could need some little improvements.
Btw you can center Videos with "["center"]["/center"]" (without the "), too.
First of all you should add Barierre as a possible Summoner Spell.
Zyra (and yeah mhm perhaps Galio) is missing as a support.
Is an early Phantom Dancer a good idea? IDK, I rarely play ADC but it seems too
early for me. I'd just buy a simple Zeal after I have a bit AD.
I found your guide very relative for me. I tried so many item builds, from AS (with silver bolts first to max) to TF, and come to core item build similar as yours. But my defensive items are another - for heavy AD I usually buy Thornmail into 5th slot, and for heavy AP - Frozen mallet (+Maw of malmortius / Banshee's veil / Mercurial scimitar). And I never buy 2nd Doran for Vayne...
That is to say, I never tried Cleanse - only Exhaust forever, cuz it ftw - of course if world doesn't fck me :D maybe that time Cleanse would be a salvation, but to be honest, I doubt a little.
The next, I wonder why you haven't mentioned about Caitlyn at the opposide side of your lane? For me she's the most annoying champion to fight with, especially without additional CC from my support (e.g. Soraka or Nunu).
And the last, but not the least - about her skins (yes, I also liked that chapter!)
I've seen only once Vayne with Heartseeker skin, it's my favorite, but I wonder why it's so unpopular?
Hey! Yeah, i'm just like you! Dislike
That is to say, I never tried Cleanse - only Exhaust forever, cuz it ftw - of course if world doesn't fck me :D maybe that time Cleanse would be a salvation, but to be honest, I doubt a little.
The next, I wonder why you haven't mentioned about Caitlyn at the opposide side of your lane? For me she's the most annoying champion to fight with, especially without additional CC from my support (e.g. Soraka or Nunu).
And the last, but not the least - about her skins (yes, I also liked that chapter!)
I've seen only once Vayne with Heartseeker skin, it's my favorite, but I wonder why it's so unpopular?
Guide is ok but for my taste way too overloaded with images. They are nice but not there to spam like ads :(
Not sure if you mean BBCoding or my banners. The banners are just there to make the guide look cleaner, less walk of texts. As for the line dividers, they separate sections of text. I guess that's your taste then, haha. Ty