Why Riot Why

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Luther3000] You missed out Warmogs. Honestly I'm starting to wonder wtf the balance team is doing. Seems like season 3 has been one calamity after another so far. I miss season 2. [/quote] i said that when preseason patch came. [quote=Luther3000] That's what irritates me, botrk was already fine but they decided to overbuff it massively for no reason. Now I'm forced into building it every game because some idiot thought making an item that deals more DPS than Infinity Edge whilst being 1k gold cheaper and also having 15% lifesteal and a strong active was a good idea. Also: [icon=randuin's omen size=100] League of Randuin's soon™. [/quote] i'm remembering a LCS game where SK had 4 of these. yes, even ocelote on kassadin. [quote=Best of the 3] I honestly think it's ok. BotRK is countered by armour; Frozen Heart, Randuins and Thornmail. Those armour items are countered by Armour penetration; Black Cleaver or Last Whisper Armour penetration is countered by health; Warmogs, Sunfire. And Health is countered by HP % damage such as BotRK. That all looks well and good to me. Not sure where exactly the old Infinity crit build fits in. I see that more as a damage steroid now for AD carries and should be fitted in around these items. [/quote] inb4 tbc+botrk builds in champs like irelia and jax come around. tanks are rather useless atm, unless theiy rush some kind of ap and have "very-easy-to-use" cc. poor galio. negatron is already cheaper than it was in season2. you can't build normaly if you have an elise in the oposite team, because she rushes haunting guise and basically deals all damage in %hp, neither you can do it if you find a vi coming to gank, bc you just get raped, no matter how much armor you have. riot released more items, but honestly, not enough. besides, you look at the numbers on the items and they are all multiples of five. riot basically never does fine tuning on anything and seems way to happy about how it feels. just a bunch of kids that don't want to deal with a bit of math and ignroing consequences of changes. btw, rengar presses Q twice, kills a carry and can still take a beating. kha'zix is even worse, because he doesn't depend on brushes to make a jump. LB can barely do it, and chances are, she will die. i understand riot may want to broathen player options, but we don't see that in competitive play. furthermore riot probably wants to change "the meta" but has failed and/or doesn't care about really making it happen.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]To be fair: It's not like they don't care about it, it's more like that they're still too "inexperienced"... Everytime I see them screw up again, I kinda remember when they podcasted this "We are awesome! LoL has 15 MILLION ACTIVE ACCOUNTS!" Given that they have this great game genre which attracts players, but that doesn't change the fact that the ppl behind it are still acting like rookie Indie devs.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]i also just noticed that this madred's bloodrazor 2.0 is 950g cheaper than the original.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]league of hydra's i'm tellin u brah[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]hydra is best on champs with built-in AS buffs like [[Fiora]] and [[Nocturne]]. hydra on other champs feels kinda bad without some decent AS items. botrk is simply op, which could have been avoided.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Thoughts about hydra with [[shyvana]]?[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=utopus] Thoughts about hydra with [[shyvana]]? [/quote] imo, build wit's, zephyr, and then hydra will be very effective. :P but haven't touched shyvanna in a while.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Pheyniex] hydra is best on champs with built-in AS buffs like [[Fiora]] and [[Nocturne]]. hydra on other champs feels kinda bad without some decent AS items. [/quote] Wrong. Hydra is best on burst champs, such as Talon, Kha'Zix and Zed. :3[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]If you buy Hydra on champs like those you'll have a problem... Not only are those Single-Target burst assass who live from singling out a target and instagibbing it as fast as possible, Khaz also has a skill that does more dmg with noone else around the target.... Hydra goes with champs who already dive into the enemy crowd to autohit.. Fiora/Noc/Ad J4 (If you'd play him as such)/Tryn/Shyv/Jax etc. Some more plausible to use on, some less.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Darcurse] If you buy Hydra on champs like those you'll have a problem... Not only are those Single-Target burst assass who live from singling out a target and instagibbing it as fast as possible, Khaz also has a skill that does more dmg with noone else around the target.... Hydra goes with champs who already dive into the enemy crowd to autohit.. Fiora/Noc/Ad J4 (If you'd play him as such)/Tryn/Shyv/Jax etc. Some more plausible to use on, some less. [/quote] - Ignore that Hydra does AoE, and pretend Hydra only does single target. - Realize Hydra does more burst damage than a BT because its active is like an extra spell. - Place AoE back, and realize it doesn't matter if AoE is wasted because it has the highest burst damage, on a burst champ. - Realize Hydra, and even just Tiamat, is broken on AD burst champs, but no one realizes it because they keep thinking "BUT HYDRA HAS AOE, ASSASSINS ARE SINGLE TARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET". I win. Edit: Kha'Zix actually benefits from it the most because he can cast it mid-jump, whereas Talon and Zed's bursts take 0.5 seconds longer to perform because of it.[/quote]