Good bye League of Warmogs, Hello BotRK.

[quote=Meiyjhe][embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZOOzJ5G0no][/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy][quote=Meiyjhe] [embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZOOzJ5G0no] [/quote] Oh god, my head hurts because I facepalmed too many times and too hard. God sometimes people suck at maths. The most obvious and biggest mistake in that video is the insanely high cost efficiency of the [[blade of the ruined king]]'s active. The guy assumed that every single point of damage dealt by the active was equal to one AD. It is obviously not the case at all. You simply can NOT calculate the efficiency of the active because it's is not AD and there is no set value for each point of damage in league of legends. It's just impossible. Obviously, AD can be used on every autoattack/spell multiple times while a point of damage is just a point of damage that was used ONCE. 1 point of damage does not equal 1 AD. Now... if you take in account that everything that this guy said about [[blade of the ruined king]]'s passive AND active is wrong, the end results are extremely different. Other very important things to consider: -[[bloodthirster]] gives much more damage on spells. -[[blade of the ruined king]] will deal less and less damage as the enemy loses HP. -Most of the time you will lead a fight with your spells, making [[blade of the ruined king]] a lot less efficient since it deals damage based off the enemy's current HP. -[[bloodthirster]] gives more lifesteal -The bonus damage from [[blade of the ruined king]] can not Critically hit. All in all, people will slowly realize that [[bloodthirster]] is much better than [[blade of the ruined king]] as a first item. However, when it comes to late game, I gotta admit that the active of [[blade of the ruined king]] is pretty damn sick. There's also the lifesteal tanking build that includes both of these items. I actually love that build lol.[/quote]

[quote=Vaan99]I wouldn't agree that botrk is better than bloodthirster. I'd say it's an alternative first purchase, it's definitely better on twitch, tristana or kog'maw as first item than bloodthirster. It's true that BT is better for more casting ad carries. I think riot is going in right direction with it, before it was very monotone for ad carries, everyone had identical build, but now it's showing some diversity. It'll take a while until botrk is completely balanced, but at least it isn't that ridiculous anymore.[/quote]

[quote=Forgottenduty]I just had a [[Jarvan]] min in my team and he finished with 20 kills rushing with this item.. I don't know witch one is more cost effective, but I feel better with Botrk than B.T.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]any idea which would be better on caitlyn? BT or BotRK? cuz ive heard of almost every other ADC except for caitlyn about these items[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]Bt-> more AD, best for ability reliant champs (urgot, riven...?). carries if enemies are squishy. botrk -> passive subject to AA, therefore best if you auto attack a lot (carries in general, probably situatinal, and champs like Irelia and jax) anti-hp/mres-tank item. this is how i read it.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=DillButt64] any idea which would be better on caitlyn? BT or BotRK? cuz ive heard of almost every other ADC except for caitlyn about these items [/quote] Both are pretty decent but I'd say BotRK is better as Caitlyn is largely autoattack based.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]If you are debating about getting either [[bloodthirster]] or [[blade of the ruined king]] as your first item on [[caitlyn]] I would say [[bloodthirster]] any day. Better Q/R/Passive damage, better lifesteal, more consistent damage, etc. But for late game? Maybe Botrk. EDIT: What I see the most at 2k elo is [[caitlyn]]s going for [[infinity edge]] first because they really want to get [[blade of the ruined king]] later.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=DarkPercy] EDIT: What I see the most at 2k elo is [[caitlyn]]s going for [[infinity edge]] first because they really want to get [[blade of the ruined king]] later. [/quote] This is also what I'm doing right now.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]ie botrk has been the best option even when botrk got first released. now botrk is only good on vayne, trist, and kog. on caitlyn it is optional.[/quote]