Thresh nerf?

[quote=Lolnub95]Hey, I play support ranked premade and have nearly all supps out of Lulu and Leona. Now I have nearly 6.3k IP and want to buy Thresh than, but I read (Surrender@20) that his Q will be nerfed and the passive from it will go onto the E. Because I´m a kinda bad player, idk what this means for Thresh and if this is a hard nerf, so idk if he´s than less good and not worth to spend 6.3 on him. Btw, I´ve also a general question to Thresh: He gest no AP and Armor per level iirc, so after how much souls the AP/Armor is similar to the general AP/Armor results and after how much souls I get profit out of the passive?[/quote]

[quote=DKitten]It's not a HARD nerf, but it puts his utility behind by a level. Now he actually has to choose which skill to upgrade, though I still think that damage-Thresh will just max [[Flay]] and support-Thresh will continue maxing [[Dark Passage]]. He's still good. Just lost a little of his early game presence. He'll be the same during mid and late game.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]We already touched on how this is more of a buff than a nerf [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/pbe-thresh-change-22271?page=1]here.[/url][/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe]About your last question: [color=#0080ff]LoLwiki[/color] [i]It takes 49-94 souls to catch up to the armor levels of other level 18 champions (61 to 90 armor, including his base armor).[/i] [i]At 95, Thresh has the highest innate armor not including other champion's abilities.[/i] [i]It takes 146 souls to match a level 18 Taric with rank-5 Shatter - the highest armor available without items, runes and masteries (116 armor).[/i] [i](http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Thresh/Ability_Details)[/i] [color=#0080ff]Reign of Gaming[/color] [i]For Levels 1-3 -- maintain a soul count of 2 times your level[/i] [i]For Levels 4-8 -- maintain a soul count of 3 times your level[/i] [i]For Levels 9-18 -- maintain a soul count of 4 times your level.[/i] [i](http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/diff-the-ender/22934-damnation-how-many-souls-does-thresh-need)[/i][/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]It was more of a buff than a nerf tbh, now his death sentence will be a one point wonder till lvl 13 and you can just stack more damage, making him a more efficient kill lane. The other thread in General explains it all[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]They actually DID nerf him last PBE patch btw.[/quote]

[quote=Lolnub95][quote=OTGBionicArm] They actually DID nerf him last PBE patch btw. [/quote] What now? Is it a buff or nerf oO?[/quote]