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Another Diamond AMA (jungle theme) GOOOOO

Creator: C4 Lasty April 16, 2013 7:33am
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Oh and Vi can carry as well.
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shaco isn't that bad, if you go 6/0 then you can stomp the game for your team o-o as long as you build like staikk shiv and botrk
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Still bad, take the game to 50 minutes render shaco useless. This is my AMA that was not a question =)
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How do you carry games as Lee Sin?

Build-wise and gameplay-wise? As in what items would you go if you were fed, and what do you do in teamfights/late game?

How to deal with jungle Fiddles (asking this because I was roflstomped by MidRumbleGG)? Besides "Take his blues"

Thoughts on Spirit of the Elder Lizard over Razors on Lee Sin?
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Good questions!

Lee sin is reallllly strong early game. Everyone knows he falls off damage wise late, BUT you can win a game for your team in the first 10 minutes. His early lvl ganks rival Jarvan and Xin for best in the game. If you get all of your lanes a kill in the first 10 minutes of the game should be over. Also nobody is better at getting a buff then camping an enemy buff for fb at lvl 2. You sit at their red E them, Q them, when they flash you Q again and you should have FB!

Build wise you can build him exactly the same as jarvan and xin, madreds, locket, aegis, randuins, then a damage item. I like frozen mallet on him as well because late game you just turn into a peel machine. Someone dives your adc, zed, jax, irelia, whoever you kick them away and then sit on your carries with FM and E. They should be safe.

I only build elder lizard on people w/ spamable abilities such as hecarim, skarner, and kayle. On lee build madreds and leave it at that. Wriggles is weak sauce now but I build it occasionally if I'm like 5-0 and I want to counterjungle a lot.

Fiddle is pretty **** tier imo. It takes a really skilled hand to use fiddle. Pick someone with cc and live inside of his jungle. Jarvan, Hecarim, Noct, Voli (esp) all can cancel drain. So just live in his jungle and kill him a lot. Also strategically warding places he's likely to ult from can really shut down his midgame power. Oh look a fiddle is about to ult...zzzz
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Oh right and Xin, Xin beats fiddle harder then anyone imo.
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how do you build your voli jungle?

I tend to run 9/21/0...was building spirit of ancient golem but with nerf to golem i tend to build madred's than boots than usually locket....than depending on enemy team comp visage or randuins...thoughts?

speaking of ancient golem do you still build it? I feel like the health nerf hurt its use with voli..though the tenacity is still nice.

also see a lot of people building sunfire in the jungle...guess I should try it...do you think that is a good choice?

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I was told that Hecarim actually isn't good at carrying at my elo unless he gets mondo fed because he requires his team to get anything done (with his W). Is this true?

one would think his OP CC and ability to surprise and catch people out easily mroe than makes up for that in the carrying department, especially in silver.
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how much wood could a Kennen chuck if a Kennen could chuck wood.

Katarina or Ahri

and whats the best way to keep from getting under leveled in the jungle while still applying pressure to lanes

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Bioalchemist: I don't build Sunfire on junglers except Zac anymore. Too expensive and team utility just feels superior to individual stats. 9-21-0 is optimal on voli, so is madreds it speeds up your clear sooooo much. I build it every game. I like locket aegis just like on most junglers. Can get a spirit visage at some point but only if magic damage is an issue. If not go straight for Randuins. On a side note I don't build mobility boots on anyone anymore except Nautilus.

OTGbionicarm: Hecarim carries at every elo forever and always. Build damage 1v5 their team.

Jinlee: Love me some manaless mids because then I get blue buffs in the jungle! Seriously though the best way to stay lvl'd etc. is keep up in farm. When you gank a lane if you send the enemy home or kill them TAKE LANE FARM shove a wave into their tower etc. It just takes practice to know when to be farming and when to be ganking. Taking lane farm is the biggest thing I don't see when I watch low elo games though.

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