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Diamond V - Diamond I

Creator: throatslasher April 17, 2013 8:26pm
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Kinen wrote:

I'm assuming this is where you were moving your AMA to?

When playing against Twisted Fate, when is it more effective to push rather than counter-gank when he gate-ganks? Also, do you find it more effective to try and kill him a lot or just relentlessly push and harass to prevent said ganks?

In a more general vein, I often feel I should be ganking when I push the mid tower, but often when I gank the enemy jungler just starts pushing my tower, often effectively. In which situations is it best to gank, or to push? I'm aware my champions of choice mostly have good wave-clear and decent ganks, so I'm fine with considering my champion strengths when it comes to that decision, but what about the enemy? Against what sort of foes should I roam a lot and who should I be pushing against, whether they are in lane or out of it?

Finally (for now), can you give me any tips for keeping a mid Kha'Zix shut down throughout the game? Even when he does very, very poorly in lane, he usually manages to not only catch up, but start carrying his team. Unless it's on my team. Then it just catches up.


im not plat or diamond or anything but i do play kha'zix a lot

kha'zix has some of the worst pre-6 ive used in a long time, abuse him pre-6 because he is very weak

he gets a spike in power at level 6 when he evolves his W (if he doesnt evolve his W first then you can still abuse him) and make sure you dodge those spikes because they will do a lot of damage

you want to build early armor and get your jungler to steal their blue with you and the lane next to it so that kha cant get it, he has high mana costs on his W so if you can deny him blue you should be good

before your jungler ganks try to bait out his E, whenever a jungler comes to gank me i just leap over one of the walls and im safe but without leap kha cant really escape ganks unless his slow is up because leap has a high cooldown

late game you want to lock him down with CC, snares slows stuns roots, so that he cant leap all over the place with his resets and clean up your team, thats some advice i have for playing against kha as someone that uses kha a lot

and throat i didnt watch the game cuz i dont have lolreplay downloaded on my laptop and i dunno where to get it and im too lazy to get it anyways
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I'd be careful about what you say about pre-6 Kha'Zix Dill. I constantly score FB at level 2 by starting Q at level one, pushing as hard as I can, reaching level 2, popping my red pot, jumping on them while they're still level 1 and pretty much 1-shotting them. If they flash, I flash after them and use Q again when it comes off of CD. It works on almost anyone that's squishy, armor seals or not.
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I'll answer these in depth. For now,

"kha'zix has some of the worst pre-6 ive used in a long time"

********. He has a built in escape, built in sustain, moderate burst damage, and ranged poke before 6. He's fine, just melee.
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ive had terrible pre-6 on him other than level 2, it feels like his pre-6 is just weak compared to others with his high mana cost on W which is his poke and sustain

but yeah im not plat or anything but to me i dont think his pre-6 is all that great other than his level 2 burst
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I'd be careful about what you say about pre-6 Kha'Zix Dill. I constantly score FB at level 2 by starting Q at level one, pushing as hard as I can, reaching level 2, popping my red pot, jumping on them while they're still level 1 and pretty much 1-shotting them. If they flash, I flash after them and use Q again when it comes off of CD. It works on almost anyone that's squishy, armor seals or not.


I got 100-0 facing my first Kha'Zix as Ahri. Under my tower :( Most unexpected, now I play around that sudden leap and punish it.
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So how do you farm with Ryze?
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Kha Zix Pre six has two sides his his lvls 2-3 are pretty deadly if you use them right
his 1 and his 4-6 are meh though(what I see from him being played and playing him my fair share on freeweeks)

Also How do you do Jungle Pantheon and why is he tier 3 You still haven't awnsered me that I tryed all kinds of **** on him in S2 but never turned out to be more than something Funny(like Jungle)

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Out of Randomneess why unlike most Radom Diamonds that I see on Dom you actually bothered using Revive(saw you in a game with a friend I was trying to give him tips on teh mode)
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''I'm the walking proof that you can suck and get all the elo''

No, you are the walking proof that you don't realize that you are good :P. Also, Diamond V, IV, III and II are not even half as meaningful as Diamond I/Challenger. Basically, from Plat IV to Diamond II is the S2 Platinum and Diamond I/Challenger is the S2 Diamond.

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Oi! good luck with reaching Diamond I ! :3
Btw i have a question, how does anivia stand for solo q?
I've been doing well with something like a 10/3/5 kda, but stuff like lux or akali seems to work better in bronze..
Ya think an average played anivia that can't use walls properly can still carry low elo cuz i wanna main anivia c:?
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XeresAce wrote:

Oi! good luck with reaching Diamond I ! :3
Btw i have a question, how does anivia stand for solo q?
I've been doing well with something like a 10/3/5 kda, but stuff like lux or akali seems to work better in bronze..
Ya think an average played anivia that can't use walls properly can still carry low elo cuz i wanna main anivia c:?

Anivia is soooo strong and so overlooked because she isn't popular... abuse her if you're great at her. Actually, just abuse any champion you're good at. Literally. It's the best way to win, simply put.

But I'd also like to hear the opinion of a Mid Main like throat.
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