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What do you think the Rengar rework will look...

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Kha'zix will get some tweaks, some rioter mentioned it on eu lcs on week 9 i think. He said they are going to make his other evolutions better choice for leveling up and his w a bit worse.
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yeah if they replaced his W with some kind of ranged poke thing (like talons and kha have) then maybe he could be an AD mid assassin champion
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For all of those who dont know about the rework...
SaintV also said something about it but i dont know if there is a video about it.
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DillButt64 wrote:

yeah if they replaced his W with some kind of ranged poke thing (like talons and kha have) then maybe he could be an AD mid assassin champion


he's still suck at mid because he cant abuse bushes, unless they changed his passive.
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Rengar to me was made the wrong away, allowing him to 2-shot squishies, making assassins like LeBlanc even worse choices.

Kha'Zix is just broken with evolved Void Spikes and Leap resets, not to talk about its racerolling range. "oh ****, i'm out of position... np, free flash" *trollface. he can akf farm at distance AND deal insane damage with ease. fair? i don't think so.


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Difference is that Kha'Zix is still countered by being focused. he's squishy and has no real defensive moves, a small heal and 3 seconds of oddly placed damage reduction hardly qualify as "defensive". He's balanced as he is.

Meanwhile, Rengar, at his peak was tanky as hell, could gib carries, had long lasting stealth, and AS/Armor/MR steroids, plus a potent heal. Their problem was trying to make a bruiser into an assassin, or an assassin into a bruiser. he needed to be one or the other.
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I think that's just because he's generally easier to play, he has no really quirky mechanics like Kha'Zix and Rengar and holds up better late game than Panth.
Talon is my favorite assassin still. :p

That's why I included plat too, you can't deny the players there are good. Kha'Zix simply has a low win ratio. At most he's only had a 50% win ratio recently, but he hasn't gone past that.
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Any link? Never heard that Rengar will be reworked.
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Let me add my statement.

First Rengar: Riots needs to decide what they want him to be a bruiser OR an assassin. His kit has tools for both and combination of bruiser and assassin ( High hp and high dmg) is just flawed.

A buff to his dmg and a nerf to his hp/lvl and armor/level gain should be fine to make him good. Besieds that he might need a new W because the idea of a heal on a AOE dmg skill on an assassin has it flaws.


Which brings me to Kha'Zix:

Riot over shot what they aimed for. "Lets make a champ that can adapted an pick what he needs in the game"... well they made a champ that is adapted to all situations in every game... close enough?
First of all also on him riot does need to decide what he is supposed to be. A poke champ or an assassin. Having both in his kit AND having both working for both roles is a bit to much power in te same kit for the same resource ( imagine EZ would only have AD scalings on all of his skills AP EZ burst with AD Ez sustain dmg sounds balanced right?).

But ultimately riot has to kill what the champs stand for atm. Because no champ should have good poke and assassination with little to no draw back. Even Nid has to care for herself as her jump is rather short and she has no form of CC. But over stacking CC is something Riot loves to do lately.
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kha'zix doesnt have any CC other than his situational slow, his jump has a high cooldown, and his W can be creep blocked and his ult is pretty weak which means the rest of his kit can have a bit more power (see volibear hes used because the rest of his kit is really strong but his ult is weak) and you can counter play him by standing near/behind creeps and by having an oracles or pink ward for his ult

and as OTG said kha is super squishie and can die by being focused since he cant use his jump if hes locked down
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