Teaching you how to support!

[quote=qEbow]Hello my name is qEbow and im player on Eu East Sever! So leds get started! Im offering to teach anybody how to support, possitioning in team fights as support,protecting your ad carry and more! Builds and stuff. Comunication is the key! Well idk what to writte more i just dont want unmature ppl. Pm if you need anything, seya ;)[/quote]

[quote=qEbow]My answer to his question (orginal message under answer) : "if you don't even play ranked, and apparently only play Co-Op Vs AI, how are you supposed to mentor others instead of others mentoring you?" Ill ask few questions and you tell me do i need to know that if im playing ranked. Oke? Leds Start.. Positioning- do i need ranked plays for that? Even bots can beat you widouth right one Warding - Do i need to play on daly basic to know how to ward. Wich spell/item to take next and what to counter - do i need to play rank for that? What to main target in team fightst and in wich order - do i need to play ranked for that? Should i go on or should i stop? Isnt everything about ranked...there is something in watching vids over and over calculating the chances and looking from a differend angle in each situation and from that i develop my style of playing any game not just LoL Ranked games and Normal games are only to inproove your allready learned skills. your reflexes to be calm in tight situations,act fast and right. To guide new players on right path and give them some basic knowlage and sometimes even more do i need to be a Plantium ++ division? You tell me! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vynertje on June 20, 2013 6:42am | block ... if you don't even play ranked, and apparently only play Co-Op Vs AI, how are you supposed to mentor others instead of others mentoring you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont hide anything ;)[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Bot games don't properly simulate a 2v2 ADC-support lane, nor does it demonstrate the importance of wards or positioning. Even at intermediate level, the bots basically come to you to suicide. Nor do you need to itemize properly. I could win with an AP [[riven]], for example. At least play normal games. Bot games don't teach anything but bad habits. Win/lose you learn important things. I'm saying this right now, this person is not a good mentor to teach support.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I don't like how you quote me with something I posted in a PM for a reason. It is highly impolite to someone who has nothing but good intentions, as to give good advice. Besides that, I think it is highly ignorant to argue like this with someone who is clearly much more experienced in not only the game itself, but especially in the support role itself. Responded to you in PM, pretty much along the lines of what sirell already pointed out. And besides, to just throw it out here: [quote] Google counter warding, just do it there is more than you can imagine. [/quote] How is you typing something in google for the people you are mentoring actually helpful? xD (PS: I commented this here because I realized this after PM'ing you)[/quote]

[quote=qEbow]The reason i pointed that out so ppl can see what can i offer if they want to learn i could just writte it here all thing but posted like this when somebody asks something and i elaborate my opinion its much better way to do it. And yeah nobody was talking about bot games, i jsut pointed that in positioning. Everybody knows that bots dont ward. And i didnt writte that bots ward or you should bec there is no sence in that and i agree with you guys on that one. I was talking about positioning with bots that you can even lose against them if you dont positione yourself right. And i gaved you an answer in mail.[/quote]

[quote=Roselight]You know that playing against bots is totally different then playing against real people. and Normals and ranked are again, like, two worlds apart...? Positioning is important, yes. you can't learn this from bots. Bots don't invade, they don't jungle. Bots follow algorithms, everything is well calculated. Humans have random and crazy ideas sometimes, which a computer can't have... just pointing it out... creating a good KI is nearly impossible or really hard. Those bots, are nothing compared to real players[/quote]

[quote=qEbow]I pointed out one think that you can lear about bots and you all taked it to the whole new level..nobody told you all anything about pro tips...i didnt tell that in any of my posts...or any other way to learn that on bots...its true you cant..but ican show them from other guides tell my friend to tell him...that was the door i was trying to open for anybody who wanted to learn anything more...i would go over basic stuff...i would train with them 1vs1 positioning.. and stuff..even tell my friends to help us in 3vs3 custom so i can show them or that one who wants to learn everything that we know...trought talking and training...even invading how to where to move and stuff...when you are doing it.. But you all jumped into your own conclusions... I just dont want to argue about that...i just tried to help but it seems that nah as i told Vynertje just dont bother i wount even delete this threat or anything... let it be on my shame or what ever...[/quote]

[quote=Roselight]we are just saying, that you don't have enough experience to actually mentor people. Most of the people here, are playing against others or are trying to rank up. I apreciate it that you'd like to help new players, but I think, we all think that you need to learn a lot yourself first, to be able to do so... that's all we are trying to say[/quote]

[quote=qEbow]And one more queston wasnt that so hard to say it like that in begining? to avoind all this mess or what ever?[/quote]

[quote=IAmByakuya]I don't know why you keep insisting, it's obviously nice to see people wanting to help others but you need experience and skills to teach others since you learn NOTHING from playing vs bots. In other words it's like a blind leading another blind. No offense.[/quote]