When can I post my Jinx Guide?

[quote=DillButt64][quote=GrandmasterD] 1 Game [[Jinx]] won my promos to plat 1. AMA [/quote] why didnt you make a jinx guide yet?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]R > Q > W > E [[Doran's Blade]] > [[The Bloodthirster]] > [[Zeal]] > [[Last Whisper]]/[[Infinity Edge]] > whatever you didnt just build > [[Phantom Dancer]]/[[Statikk Shiv]] > [[Guardian Angel]] shes not vayne dont rush BotRK on her EDIT: obviously get boots when you need them and sell dorans tho[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Skill order is R > W > Q > E. Man I can't believe she made it to live with those numbers.[/quote]

[quote=SteppenKat]I played over 35 games with Jinx in total between PBE and live games. But I also think it's too soon to write a guide about her. I'm planning on doing so but I don't think it's worth the haste. Like, some people are really insisting on how good [[Runaan's Hurricane]] is on her. I personally think that it's a noobtrap item. I don't care if it gives her more splash power. It's a waste of item slot. You lose movement speed (which she so dearly needs), crit (so it cripples her DPS) for... a bit more of Attack Speed (she scales poorly with items due to her 1% level scaling) and one-shotting creepwaves? Also I've realised that [[Tear of the Goddess]] based builds are not that viable, you don't need or want to depend on [[Fishbones]] all day. Also I'm not completely sure on maxing [[Zap]] before [[Switcheroo]]. At least for me, I think Q gives more playstyle flexibility. And [[Zap]]s poking power is more noticeable once you build some AD items (since it has retardedly high scaling).[/quote]

[quote=SteppenKat]Yeah and range is so overrated (hint: [[Caitlyn]]). :P Precisely because it scales so well and its base damage is just okay, you don't need to max it first. Scaling comes when you put items on it. [[Fishbones]] isn't meant to do longterm poke. One AA just costs 20 mana. You can quickly switch into rocket mode, poke with an AA when the enemy comes to last-hit and run back. This is easily done with some practice and it's very efficient poke. Right from level 4 you can play almost like a [[Caitlyn]] would (since you get 625 AA range). It's also harder to deny you (ywhen playing vs lane bullies) the longer range you have. You can safely last-hit a couple of minions with the extra range. For duels you want the extra Attack Speed. 1.7 with just [[Berserker's Greaves]]? Yes, please. Also, if you're trying to max W first why would you ever want to build [[Blade of the Ruined King]]? You're contradicting yourself. BT gives her 100 AD while BotRK gives her 25. And she doesn't scale that well with Attack Speed. I'm not saying W maxing isn't a valid playstyle, just not the only one - and in my opinion, it isn't the most efficient either.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=SteppenKat] Yeah and range is so overrated (hint: [[Caitlyn]]). :P Precisely because it scales so well and its base damage is just okay, you don't need to max it first. Scaling comes when you put items on it. [[Fishbones]] isn't meant to do longterm poke. One AA just costs 20 mana. You can quickly switch into rocket mode, poke with an AA when the enemy comes to last-hit and run back. This is easily done with some practice and it's very efficient poke. Right from level 4 you can play almost like a [[Caitlyn]] would (since you get 625 AA range). It's also harder to deny you (ywhen playing vs lane bullies) the longer range you have. You can safely last-hit a couple of minions with the extra range. For duels you want the extra Attack Speed. 1.7 with just [[Berserker's Greaves]]? Yes, please. Also, if you're trying to max W first why would you ever want to build [[Blade of the Ruined King]]? You're contradicting yourself. BT gives her 100 AD while BotRK gives her 25. And she doesn't scale that well with Attack Speed. I'm not saying W maxing isn't a valid playstyle, just not the only one - and in my opinion, it isn't the most efficient either. [/quote] this guy said it himself, another point is with trading, whats going to be better for trades one W or the stats that Q gives? this is for long term trades lasting more than a few seconds all you said was to give a better build and i gave a better build, specially with the skill order you said also you dont really need the slow that early, you do have a 1.5 second snare along with a wtf% speed boost on kills and for under turrets using a rocket AA is better than using W because it cant get blocked by minions think of W like viegars [[Dark Matter]], it has a huge ratio so you dont need to max it first since its damage scales with your items and i know vayne doesnt have exclusive rights to BotRK but she pretty much does have the rights to rushing it (except maybe varus but he can rush a bunch of items) they even changed lucians recommended build so people would stop rushing BotRK on him, and any time i see a draven rush BotRK my head hurts[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]I maxed Q in lane because it's more consistent than W and range is an incredible stat to have. I think you should max either W or Q depending on your lane opponents.[/quote]

[quote=Satella]W is... way too visually obvious. It's even visible when you cast from non-warded brush which irritates me. On topic though, the problem with Q max is that it doesn't increase your damage one bit unless you're in an extended fight with minigun. Then again, I've ALWAYS maxed a nuke in lane on literally every single ADC who isn't [[Kog'Maw]], so it may be habit speaking.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I played some games with a d1 player in ranked teams who said it was best to max Q - can't verify it myself since I don't own her but just wanted to throw it out here ^^[/quote]

[quote=Satella]If only I could build IP faster so I could see this for myself. z[/quote]