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My only changes to it overall are Ruined king instead of Black cleaver (I just love too much the benefits from life steal and it needs something in the case of a tanky foe) and late game selling boots for Zephyr (gives loads of AS, more ms than a second PD could give and gives tenacity, great item on poppy), I think it is pretty good on her.
BTW, do someone knows if it could be tweaked to work on Teemo and ad Leona? (after one plays supp to an Adc malzahar, one starts to think lots of new weird ideas... wonder if any of them could work)
The TriForce proc doesn't crit and scales off base AD, meaning Poppy only gets about 230 bonus damage.
Take 400 AD, IE Crit, then add TRiForce proc and it only goes to about 1200, not 1700. Bonus damage bumps it to 1600-ish. With 300 AD it's only about 1200 damage.
A full AP build has (140 + 120 + 100 + 70 + 80)*1.25 = 650 AP, using Dcap DFG Zhonyas Void Lich Bane respectively.
Q does 135% of your AP, plus 150 from base amounts, plus 130 from AD, plus 375 from %-HP damage, multiplied by 120% from DFG. That amounts to over 1800 damage. Then Heroic Charge adds about another 1000 if you ram them into a wall. Lastly, you have magic pen from Boots and Void Staff, so your damage against even medium MR targets are significantly higher than wih an AD build.
You forgot DFG and your ult, which amplifies that multiplicatively to get like 2500 damage in a single Q, and you forgot that E scales off AP and also amplifies off DFG + Ult.
Ult is irrelevant because it scales damage regardless whether based of AD or AP. =P You get ~2500+ most likely on AD Poppy too.
And yeah dfg would help but still you're not getting much more than the ~1800 from AD poppy after you add boots to the build I just put for AP .-. even with dfg.. :X
And her e only gets 40% of AP.. The extra for smashing into wall is kinda irrelevant since they're dead either way if that happens.. xD
Zhonya's -- 120 AP
Nashor's tooth -- 60 AP
Deathfire Grasp -- 120 AP
Rabadon's Cap -- 120 AP
Seraph's embrace -- ~130 AP
Lich Bane -- 80 AP
TOTAL: ~800-850 AP my math is bleh atm..
Your q would then deal:
117 from AD
100 from Bonus
150-375 from Percent Health
.6*850 from scaling
.9*850 from nashor and lich bane..
Okay that's like.. 1642-1760.. I guess that's maybe a bit better than with AD, especially since you only crit 70%.. O: But still you gave up soooo much damage from normal attacks and speed for such a small boost. ;X Note I didn't even buy boots here.. xD You'd probably have to buy sorcerer boots and BAM raw damage dropped more.. xD
Hi guys i was just wondering, why ad poppy over ap? Wouldn't ap poppy's devastating blow be unstoppable? Thanks!
With his build (minus the black cleaver, cause I feel you should a defensive item).. your attack damage will be at level 18: ~287 (usually I get flat AD runes so a bit higher, but yeah)..
Okay so how much does devastating blow do?
287 + (287*2 from Trinity force) + (287*1.5 from critical hit, which has 70% chance) + 100 (bonus damage) + (18 from the 30 AP from Trinity force) + (150-375 from the 8% added damage)
TOTAL: 1559-1784 based on their health without ult and without w which would add another.. 135 damage.. xD
JUST TRY. getting even vaguely close to that much building AP. =P And then you can murder them with auto attacks and your speed is generally over 500 since you have w and ghost .-. Plus that attack speed ._.
What I don't get is why anyone would ever build AP on her. xD It scales so badly. ;u;
For one, your build is super weird. DOUBLE TRINITY FORCE? WTF? The passives don't stack and you are wasting your gold on this when there are better items. It's like seeing some noob buy two-three
1. You probably should have kept boots. If you got hard CC'ed while chasing with
2. Replace the second
3. DUDE YOUR NOT EVEN LEVEL 30 YET!!!! According to "lolking.net", your a level 14 who seems to play only
4.
5. So, in conclusion, your not level 30 and you are playing against bads. That amount of kills in a game is unrealistic unless you are at super low level/elo or you are playing against bots. So, I will definitely NOT read it and weep.
Your build is bad, this guide's build is bad + outdated, and you should feel bad. =)
~Rant Over~
-DaCookieMonsta
Hi guys i was just wondering, why ad poppy over ap? Wouldn't ap poppy's devastating blow be unstoppable? Thanks!
ad poppy is hard to counter with items, auto-attacks deal physical damage, q deals magic and % damage.
like your item build but thee real guide doesnt look that good. definitely not a 91% worthy guide imo. no vote from me