OTG's Ranked Evolution 3: Revenge of the Brobot.

[quote=jamespongebob]I remember the time when [[karma]] was virtually never played, and I though she was an AP mid until my friends told me she was a support. I still went mid anyway. Anyhow, I think I've seen a support [[orianna]] before too. Can't remember if it was good though.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=DillButt64] didnt zyra only get shoved into support after they murdered all of her damage? [/quote] I think it was because at the time [[Zyra]] came out, if you weren't roaming from mid, you weren't doing it right at all, and they gutted her base MS, so people just started supporting her.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Ori isn't that good as a support, she's essentially Karma with less reliable harass but with more CC in teamfights. You might as well play her mid, she's generally pretty good atm as far as I know. I never really liked Karma as a support before her rework. I felt her solo laning was much better.[/quote]

[quote=jamespongebob][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Ori isn't that good as a support, she's essentially Karma with less reliable harass. I never really liked Karma as a support before her rework. I felt her solo laning was much better. [/quote] It was a lot more fun too. Her old passive and Q together gave her so much baiting ability.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]At the time supports were still ward bots so a good support had to have presence without items, and the best way to do this was to just simply have tons of cc. Zyra mostly was picked up as a support because her aoe disengage and pick potential with her e were extremely fit for pick comps, and her cc and lane presence were crazy.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Ori isn't that good as a support, she's essentially Karma with less reliable harass but with more CC in teamfights. You might as well play her mid, she's generally pretty good atm as far as I know. I never really liked Karma as a support before her rework. I felt her solo laning was much better. [/quote] Her Q is pretty useful for vision in the lane brush, too, especially now that supports generally have less wards at their disposal early. I haven't played it in forever and I'm not sure how she compares to [[Karma]], but I [i]think[/i] she shouldn't be much worse.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]In lane she has very little pressure while karma has (because you can just instaclear waves with mantric Q's to gain control) which is why I would not recommend playing her support.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][center][h3]Game 17:[/h3] [i]"Praise the sun!"[/i] [url=http://i.imgur.com/MLVjdt1.png][img=http://i.imgur.com/MLVjdt1.png width=500][/url] [h3]Thought Process:[/h3][/center] I'm tired of losing. I'm going to destroy everything in my path. I'm on a [[leona]] warpath. After my core support purchases I was 6/0 and not taking shit. I rushed [[Sunfire Cape]] and then [[Varus]] started getting focused by [[Vi]] so I picked up a [[Mikael's crucible]] to help him out. My final purchase would have been [[Randuin's Omen]]. Same runes and masteries and skill order as before. [center][h3]Game Summary:[/h3][/center] [[jinx]] was being a bit cocky with poking [[varus]] and I realized she was also maxing her [[Zap!]], so I abused her between cooldowns, allowing [[varus]] to pick up first blood. [[thresh]] was super trigger happy on his hook and I body blocked it nearly every time, which resulted in poor trades for him and [[Jinx]] every time. [[Warwick]] got demolished by [[Malphite]] and [[lee sin]], but [[Orianna]] wasn't faring well against [[Gragas]], who roamed around and killed [[varus]] and [[lee Sin]] at different points. [[Gragas]] was so safe and slippery, we basically never tried to kill him. [[Jinx]] was our primary bitch. A comical moment happened when I ulted [[jinx]] and she immediately got hit by the [[Unstoppable force]] and [[COmmand: Shockwave]]. She was alone. That was completely unnecessary. But so satisfying. Most of our team fights were 4v5 while [[Lee Sin]] gathered towers and objectives. Whenever he felt like getting a free kill, he came in. He had a tendacy to be cocky as fuck and died a lot, but he got the job done of back dooring the shit out of them. They lost by chasing me around after a bad 4v5 while [[lee sin]] kicked their Nexus to death. [center][h3]Things I learned:[/h3][/center] Our team comp was absolutely hilarious. [[Warwick]] top isn't seeming as OP as that EUW guy made it seem. [center][h3]Things to work on:[/h3][/center] Nothing. I fucked the shit out of that team. [center][h3]Questions for MOBAfire:[/h3][/center] I've been playing a lot of [[leona]] out of violent rage. I am on rampage and [[leona]] demands blood for sacrifice to the Sun. Who is your total rampage champion that you bring out to turn around a bad losing spree?[/quote]

[quote=jamespongebob]My rampage champion is AP [[annie]]. Come out of nowhere and OMGWTFBURST burning enemies to death[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]To be entirely honest I hate [[Leona]], lol. I hate her complete and utter reliance on all-ins to get anything done. But I'm mad and want things to die, violently.[/quote]