Best way to Counter Shyvana

[quote=Hannul][[tryndamere]] [heimerdinger]] [[jayce]] there's a lot of counters. Either some sort of ranged harass or out dpsing/ sustaining her sustained magic damage. she's not a burster, she's still going to take like 20 seconds trying to kill your adc if the adc can kite. Remember, [[shyvana]] is not hard to peel, nor does she have any cc. Your only worry should be her [[burnout]] in a tf by stopping her from auto attacking. I'm not saying pile your hard cc onto her, I'm saying just don't let her auto then BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HER.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I just use [[nasus]] and [[Rengar]] and it seems to work.[/quote]

[quote=drakon136][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] [[Olaf]] is really irritating to play against as [[Shyvana]], I can confirm this fact. [/quote] Olaf is irritating to play against any melee champion really, from [[Poppy]] to [[Yorick]]. But yeah, [[Olaf]] is really good against her.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]well, I feel like I suck at top lane, so I wasn't just gonna say [[Olaf]] counters [[Shyvana]] after one game where he was annoying as fuck to lane against. Which is what I get for first picking her because three other people on my team called support. xD[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=SkidmarkD] Nothing with mana. [[Shyvana]] can and will outlast any champ that uses mana. [/quote] She gets totally bullied by [[jax]], though. I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet, since I didn't read all the thread, but [[jax]] is a pretty typical soloq counter to [[Shyvana]]. Other than that, both [[renekton]] and [[dr. mundo]] hold their own, though [[dr. mundo]] might have to take it up the ass a bit until he completes [[spirit visage]] to become unkillable like [[shyvana]] does.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][[Jax]] gets shit on during the early-game and [[Shyvana]] is really good at snowballing that.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Really? From what I've seen, it's the opposite. As long as [[jax]] weathers past level 1 and perhaps 2, [[shyvana]] gets bullied quite hard. Other than a literal kill in those levels, there's very little in the first two levels for [[shyvana]] to snowball an advantage.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=sirell] Really? From what I've seen, it's the opposite. As long as [[jax]] weathers past level 1 and perhaps 2, [[shyvana]] gets bullied quite hard. Other than a literal kill in those levels, there's very little in the first two levels for [[shyvana]] to snowball an advantage. [/quote] [[Counter Strike]] is easily avoidable and [[Burnout]] still chunks you even if you use it. [[Jax]]'s early-game (level 1-5/1-7) is really weak compared to most bruisers and [[Shyvana]] can abuse that.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Hm... well, that sounds plausible. Which makes it strange, since [[jax]] is the third most popular pick into [[shyvana]] after [[renekton]] and [[riven]]. Edit: On another topic, I just noticed that Moon advocated [[nidalee]] as a theoretical parody for [[zed]]. I took the liberty to look this up just now and noticed that [[nidalee]] actually wins 51% of the games against [[shyvana]] at Diamond. Might not indicate much, but it was just something interesting. Other successful champs include [[riven]], [[dr. mundo]], [[renekton]] and (strangely enough) [[wukong]].[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]I beat a [[Shyvana]] as [[Lee Sin]] a few days ago, must mean it's a counter amirite ...In all seriousness though, I would personally use [[Elise]]. [[Olaf]] and [[Teemo]] should win, too. [quote=Hannul] [s][[tryndamere]][/s] [[heimerdinger]] [s][[jayce]] there's a lot of counters.[/s] [/quote] lolwat. Can we stick to, you know, actual top laners?[/quote]